[Zombies] Is this legal?

adjust at rematter.com adjust at rematter.com
Sat Jan 13 05:06:12 PST 2007


just dont make the "fan" shirts suck. MBM is a greatness, dont do crap or
fear the consequence of getting dissed.



> In my experience with the band and their managment, they've never bitched
> about lost money for sales and such, so I don't think "stealing money" is
> a
> concern.  You know, Jack's very approachable at shows and stuff, and he's
> sampled from people for years, so I don't think that argument holds up, I
> don't think they subscribe to the record labels' views of "fans steal
> money"!
>
> heh
>
>
>
> On 1/12/07, Seamonkey <originalcontrol at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Whilst we're all t-shirt talking, I want a Jack Dangers "Jack Daniels"
>> style tee myself!
>> Who's taking note?  Ellen?  Cathy?  Jack?  Brian??? LOL
>> A plus to the Zombie's-list shirt thing may be that on these custom
>> print
>> sites you can design a shirt and then put your design up for sale so
>> anyone
>> who is interested on the list can order one from there, thus eliminating
>> the
>> need for a bulk order.
>> The REAL problem here is what does THE BAND think of that... especially
>> with not gaining revenue from their "brand" and loss of revenue for
>> styles
>> that they have already invested $$ in to sell.  I wonder if we could
>> submit
>> designs to them and then have an MBM store set up on site of choice
>> (Zazzle,
>> Cafe Press, etc.) and offer a multitude of cool designs that way.  The
>> shirts would then be made to order and any profit would go to them.
>> But yeah, after reading Jon's points I wouldn't want to do anything en
>> masse that would have an adverse effect on my favourite band.  That
>> said,
>> there ARE ways to offer a multitude of choices, keep it simple
>> *and*benefit the band.  Just check out all the different licensed
>> Spider-Man
>> styles on Zazzle.com! =)
>> Now *somebody* buy a Seamonkey t-shirt already, geez (
>> www.seamonkeymusic.com)!  Glad MY stuff wasn't bulk order!!!
>> There's my two-cents... see you all after I switch internet services!
>> ~Eric
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Mighty <Mighty at destroyer.net>
>> *To:* zombies at hollyfeld.org
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2007 2:54 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Zombies] Is this legal?
>>
>> Oh sure definitely... However I get the impression the original shirt
>> idea
>> springs from the fact that dude himself just wants said shirt, hence I
>> say,
>> hell man, make one.
>>
>>
>> On 1/12/07 1:54 PM, "Jon Whitney" <turbid at turbid.com> wrote:
>>
>> making your own shirt is different than doing some coordinated shirt
>> project on the website
>>
>> On 1/12/07, *Mighty* < Mighty at destroyer.net
>> <mailto:Mighty at destroyer.net><Mighty at destroyer.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I would love to see some of the vintage designs resurface, having worn
>> many of my ( some up to 15 years old, jeeezus!) shirts to practically
>> useless rags, I wouldn't mind rocking some shirts I miss, or missed out
>> on
>> for that matter.
>>
>> On the legality of the fans putting together a shirt design,... Of
>> course
>> its not legal. Off that premise however, who cares? asking for
>> permission
>> imo is pointless. If you want to make something for your own personal
>> use
>> that highlights some band you like etc. do it. Don't ask for permission.
>> Ive
>> done this with many bands, groups, ideas that I liked. Luckily im
>> capable of
>> screenprinting my own 1 offs or a couple and can just do it 'at will'.
>> Any
>> musician/entertainer that bitches about something like this, esp if its
>> done
>> tastefully is a fucking crybaby and should suck it. Its not like your
>> really
>> harming their bottom dollar by making 1 or a few for you and a couple of
>> friends or damaging their reputation with something so minimal.
>>
>> Make your own mbm shirt, I did in the late 90's when there was nothing
>> available. It rocked and no one else had one like it ;)
>>
>>
>> On 1/12/07 12:30 PM, "Knavishas at aol.com" < Knavishas at aol.com
>> <mailto:Knavishas at aol.com> <Knavishas at aol.com> > wrote:
>>
>> I've noticed, through my time on this list, that the official MBM crew
>> takes notice to our gripings, wantings and concerns. If we ask for a
>> live cd
>> and dvd for long enough, well then they will provide one for us. This
>> seems
>> to be a happy system. We get what we want and they get to see us flock
>> around their offerings like pigeons to bread crumbs.
>> On that premise, I will say I am what I assume to still be a younger MBM
>> fan, clocking in at 25 now. I became a fan ten years ago at fifteen when
>> Subliminal Sandwich dropped. I bought a few of the t-shirts available in
>> the
>> day and loved them dearly. The problem with this however is that it was
>> 1996
>> and I was fifteen. See, in the nineties teenagers, no matter their
>> meekness
>> in size, thought they could fashionably wear extra-large shirts. Now in
>> later and enlightened years, I realize this is in fact a falsehood that
>> leaves my storage closet brimming with fancy, yet useless articles of
>> rock
>> 'n roll past.
>> The tie-together of this email is me asking:
>> Are the other zombies out there that would be interesting in
>> not-so-subtly
>> hinting to MBM-camp that they would like to see "retro" t-shirts
>> representing the various albums and phases of the band's 20-year history
>> and
>> would the official MBM-entity want to market this desire?
>> Just a thought,
>> Andrew
>>
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