[Nagnagnag] RE:/The Converstion/Rumours ( ONLY Kirk? - Or WAS Mal involved TOO?)

TJ Lawless tjlawless at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 2 22:55:07 PST 2006

To add another indistinct sliver of flavouring into the cooking pot that is 
the Mal/RHK trilogy debate.... I distinctly remember, on a live televised CV 
performance in the 90s (possibly the Plasticity tour, although not 
absolutely sure of this) an earlier version of "The Message" being aired on 
stage,with spoken word samples ("an original hollywood theme" etc) with Lord 
Steven of Mallinder adding his thrusting lusty bass twang to proceedings at 
the time...this was the performance where RHK and Mal were interviewed by 
Steve Lamacq afterwards, think it went out on Channel 4 too. Anyone remember 

The Cabs played to what looked like a suspiciously looking half empty hall 
full of 19 year old ponytailed ravers thinking they had discovered CV...

There-indisputable proof (maybe?) that Mal's influence was on formative 
versions of tracks on "The Conversation", as "The Message", in a more 
polished form, appeared on it,as we all know..

Tim "Horsemouth" Lawless

>From: Nic Doye <nic at worldofnic.org>
>Reply-To: nagnagnag at hollyfeld.org
>To: nagnagnag at hollyfeld.org
>Subject: Re: [Nagnagnag] RE:/The Converstion/Rumours ( ONLY Kirk? - Or WAS 
>Mal	involved TOO?)
>Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:40:27 +0000
>Richard Smith - TW News wrote:
>>For what it's worth I don't think any quotes or speculation I've seen 
>>confirm the truth about The Conversation - where exactly did the "blood" 
>>quote come from and what does it mean anyway?
>I can't find my source for the "blood" quote. I remember it clearly as it's 
>one of the phrases I use, and yet it makes no sense in this context :-)
>>   How could working alone in the studio on The Conversation "feel" like a 
>>CV album when up to this point CV had always meant working with at least 
>>one other person on song-based material?   I think this debate really 
>>comes down to what you want to believe, and whether or not you consider 
>>Mal to be an essential part of CV.   The facts are that Mal was an 
>>essential part of the Cabs for 20 years and an album without him on it is 
>>not a CV album, no matter what it says on the tin - mind you, some people 
>>possibly said this when Chris left!
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