[Nagnagnag] no escape

john smith jean_marclawtonll at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 2 20:58:31 EST 2003

I'm surprised you haven't seen this before its been around a fair bit. Its 
filmed at Ladybower Resovoir which was where the RAF secretly tested Barnes 
Wallis' 'bouncing bombs' culminating in the famous raid on the Rhine dams 
which went a long way to winning the war for the allies. There is the famous 
pompous film 'the dambusters' which includes shots from Ladybower.

Its a popular weekend location for Sheffielders, I used to frequent Crowden 
/ Bleaklow / KinderScout more cos of the running and climbing available.

Most shows at the Hacienda were filmed, they used to show the visuals on a 
screen in one of the bars, in fact one of the first (if not the first) 
actual show was a Cabs video night to which hardly anyone went. This 
connection was how the Baader Meinhof etc tracks got released by Factory.

It wasn't until Kirk invested some of their Rough Trade royalties into basic 
video equipment that other Cabs shows got filmed. He had made films at art 
college, they're very much like the stuff he still does now. Some of those 
efforts occur in the Doublevision tape, which was one of the first 'pop' 
video films.

Later on they got people like Peter Carey and Shamberg to make videos for 
them, but apart from some BBC tv appearances there are very few films of the 
Cabs live. The exception of course is the Viva Eight show circa Plasticity / 
International Language which of course features me and Tamara! I presume 
you've got / seen this show, the best Cabs on film in my opinion.

I think Richard is 'exorcising' the Cabs somewhat. He really doesn't like 
people going on about it, especially 'reforming'. He's got plans to work 
with others over the next year, which is where the misquote about not 
playing live in 2003 comes from.


>From: "Pat Slade" <pslade99@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: nagnagnag@hollyfeld.org
>To: nagnagnag@hollyfeld.org
>Subject: Re: [Nagnagnag] no escape
>Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 09:57:14 -0500
>Hey Nic and all,
>> > No Escape is...amazing.  It's remarkable to me as a fan that 23 years 
>> > we still get to discover new things.
>>It was previously available on the Factory/Ikon videos, 'Ikon 1' and 'A
>>Factory Video'. (My friend Chris has one of these - it also had all of
>>New Order's Video 586 as an unlisted 20-odd minute bonus track!)
>Hmm, I'd never seen it.  Mark F told me he thought the Cabs had shot 
>another video at the same location but wasn't sure which one it could be.
>>I agree though, this DVD is pretty fantastic. The 1986 concert shows the
>>Cabs at their height. All the new songs (some later to appear on Code)
>>are brilliant in their raw pre-EMI form.
>I wish they'd shown as much of RHK in the '86 show as in the '83 one...I 
>like to see what he's up to, or when he changes from the keyboard to the 
>guitar and back again.
>>Sheer genius and Cherry Red are to be commended for releasing this.
>I am hoping that someone, anyone follows their lead and releases more dvds 
>of the Cabs.  I don't need it to be well-lit and pristine, I just want to 
>be able to see and hear how fantastic they obviously were live.  Also, more 
>video showing Chris!  Most of the video releases have been post-Chris, so 
>here's hoping.
>keep on all,
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