[Grief] Desertshore and tribute album in memory of Sleazy/Coil

Jon Whitney turbid at turbid.com
Thu Sep 20 17:03:14 PDT 2012


Grant,

"Mainly because of all the shiz with Gen" is actually way off base as well
as a few other claims in this email.

Please don't speak what you don't know.

thanks,

Jon



On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Grant Regnaert <tripreset at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Yeah.. I guess technically its not TG but whatever.. I too am definitely
> looking forward to it.
> BTW... there is going to be an extra bonus track on the Desertshore album
> in memory of Sleaz.
> It is a new tribute track done by Chris and Cosey with several friends on
> vocals including Tibet, Bee, Mark Moore, and a few other people including
> Peters good friend Jenx.
>
> But as far as the material goes... I honestly dont believe there is much
> input from Sleazy (sadly, as I wish there WAS) because from what I gathered
> from one of Sleazys good English friends who also lives in Bangkok...he was
> telling me that Sleazy never got around to recording much of it at all,
> contrary to rumours.
> His friend said he always saved TG work for last as it really was not his
> favourite.
> As THBC, COIL and SOISONG came first.
> And I personally know this to be true as in several emails I received from
> Sleazy he would say things like "I'm finishing up the Soisong album.. then
> gonna work a bit on CSO and then I gotta (unfortunately) finish up some TG
> stuff ."
> The word "unfortunately" obviously said he didnt really look forward to
> doing it.
> Mainly because of all the shiz with Gen... and his friend who told me
> this said he really didnt get much done at all on his part of Desertshore.
>
> So that is my guess as to why it HAS taken so long to complete.
>  So Maybe in a sense they did have to start from scratch.
> Because had his work been completed.. regardless of the time it took
> transferring it from Ableton to Logic.. it still wouldnt take nearly two
> years.
> Which is also why I think they brought in Danny Hyde to help assist,
> because Danny worked together with Sleazy in the studio so closlely,
> especially the last several years of his life, that he knew how Sleaz
> worked and what kind of sounds he prefered and was looking for..
>
> In fact I gotta talk with Danny this weekend so I will ask him.. as you
> got me curious now to just exactly how much Sleazy had completed. :-)
> But from what I understand it was not much at all. But Danny will know all
> the details. he has an excellent memory.
>
> FYI...  SPEAKING OF TRIBUTE TRACKS IN MEMORY OF PETER:
> My friend and I are releasing a limited edition COIL tribute album in
> memory of Sleazy.
> Its all finished now and will be going to press very soon.
> The album is called: The Beginning Is Alway The End: Sacredly Silver And
> Equally Gold. A Sidereal Tribute to Coil.
> It is actually more like a box set than an album.. As its a 3xCD set
> packaged in a beautiful fold out digipack with an 8 page colour booklet
> with artwork, words in memory of Peter, and more.
> Nearly 4 hours of excellent music. They will be pressed on actual CDs, not
> CD-Rs. It will be released on the Elseproduct label.
>  And it is limited to 300 copies only. Disc 1 is titled Sacredly Silver.
> Disc 2 is titled Equally Gold.
> And the 3rd disc, Where No Light Shines, is available for pre-orders only.
> There are 38 tracks from 43 different artists worldwide. Including some
> special artists who contributed tracks, including an excellent new track
> from Electric Sewer Age, as well as a great remix of Ostia by Mark Godwin,
> who mastered several COIL albums circa 2006 to 2011.
> This is truly an excellent tribute album all around. All of the songs are
> wonderful. And not just saying that because I'm involved with the release
> of it either. I truly believe Peter and Geff would be proud and quite enjoy
> it.
> The album will be at a very reasonable price too. It will be less than $20
> for a 3xCD set.
> If anyone is interested in purchasing the album check back here within the
> next couple of weeks, or on the TG and COIL Facebook groups, for
> information about PRE-ORDERS, as we will be taking them soon. Or feel free
> to email me for more info.
>
> thanks.
> Grant
>
> ---Original Message---
> From: "David Bourgoin" <david_bourgoin at yahoo.co.uk>
> Sent: 9/20/2012 2:42 pm
> To: grief at hollyfeld.org
> Subject: Re: [Grief] Pastimes
>
> Well it's not really TG if Genesis isn't on it is it.
>
> I remember Chris saying that he'd had to convert the tracks he'd got from
> Sleazy from Ableton to Logic I am assuming there is quite a bit of Sleazys
> input on there or they'd have just started from scratch without bothering
> with the hassle of converting from one type of software to another.
>
> Whatever I look forward to hearing it.
>
> David
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Grant Regnaert <tripreset at hotmail.com>
> To: "grief at hollyfeld.org " <grief at hollyfeld.org>
> Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012, 22:24
> Subject: Re: [Grief] Pastimes
>
> Gen is not going to be on the Desertshore album at all.
>
> There is a list of all the vocalists for every song up somewhere.
> I was just reading it a couple weeks ago but dont remember where I saw it
> at.
> And The music was all done by Chris and Cosey, as well as Danny Hyde who
> helped assist with Sleazys part since Sleazy didnt get much of his part
> recorded at all before he passed away.
> Sleaz was busy finishing up Time Machines II and was going to get to
> Desertshore after that but sadly it never happened.
>
> Grant
>
> ---Original Message---
> From: "David Bourgoin" <david_bourgoin at yahoo.co.uk>
> Sent: 9/20/2012 2:13 pm
> To: grief at hollyfeld.org
> Subject: Re: [Grief] Pastimes
>
> There's two Desertshore teasers up now
>
> http://vimeo.com/user4819164
>
> No sign of Genesis in either of them but a number of other vocalists are
> present.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ben Waddington <falsedog at yahoo.com>
> To: "grief at hollyfeld.org" <grief at hollyfeld.org>
> Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012, 21:45
> Subject: [Grief] Pastimes
>
> Hm, I'm sure I saw the Speed title in the 80s, before Blood Pressure
> appeared.
>
> Re Giftgas (and all the Dossier releases) some great nuggets but I'm
> pretty sure the jams are c.1976 -77. Stating 1975 was I suspect GPOs way of
> not having to credit Sleazy who by that time hadn't joined. By the time of
> the Dossier releases, they hadn't spoken for ten years.
>
> And looks like that's just happen again with Desertshore! Stalinists eh?
> ;0)
>
>
>
>
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> > Yeah.. its a good instrumental album.. As for the titles.. the four
> tracks are just called Pastimes part 1, 2 and 3. And Industrial Muzak...
> which is also known as Speed from the bootleg CD Blood Pressure that Gen
> released on Dossier back in 1995, without the bands permission, along with
> Giftgas and Kreeme Horn in 1997.
> > Giftgas is an excellent album. Its one of my favorites by TG. 71 minutes
> of great instrumental improv music from 1975.
> >
> >
> >
> > Grant
> >
> >
> > ---Original Message---
> > From: "Ben Waddington" <falsedog at yahoo.com>
> > Sent: 9/20/2012 6:11 am
> > To: grief at hollyfeld.org
> > Subject: [Grief] Pastimes Industrial Muzak
> >
> > I've been playing this minor album a lot recently, some nice subtle
> changes in the long hypnotic Industrial Muzac track! Anyone got titIes for
> these four tracks? I seem to remember years ago seeing that IM was actually
> called Speed but can't now think where I would have seen that. I have the
> CDr which has no info on, but is there anything on the IRC tape that might
> reveal anything?
> >
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