[Grief] Rafters gig questions

Grant Regnaert tripreset at hotmail.com
Sat Jun 6 14:14:36 PDT 2009

I pulled out the Rafters gig CD from TG+ this morning and my LP, and I literally must have listened to that song about 15 times in a row, trying to decipher the lyrics and I can't really make out shit! Gen's just totally wailing/babbling away! I can make out a word or two, here or there. But no complete sentences. I can barely even make out the "my baby died" part! And I have OCD too, so now it is really frustrating me! Lol. So I'm gonna keep trying to crack the "unintelligable" lyrics. If I figure 'em out, I will let you know. 

> From: hex at blueyonder.co.uk
> To: grief at hollyfeld.org
> Subject: Re: [Grief] Rafters gig questions
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:36:11 +0100
> ..if I remember right Gen has 3 or 4 slashes on his arm (from the TGV video 
> footage) I'd heard/rumoured that TG encouraged the audience to 'slash their 
> wrists' too! Something about a 'safe' way to do it (Sleazy was into first aid 
> type stuf at the time?) but of course that could just be complete bollocks!!!
> As for the lyrics - I've no idea but it's been a while since I listened so 
> good excuse to get my vinyl copy out again!
> I'd never heard your take on it re?: A Certain Ratio, babies etc etc - I 
> suppose there'll be a lot more stories/theories - it's what makes 'em 'living 
> legends'  ;-) 
> Tramway here I come.....
> DIL23
> :)
> On Saturday 06 June 2009 11:40:07 david brookes wrote:
> > I've often wondered about what went on at the Rafters gig in Manchester,
> > and specifically the strange mood Gen seemed to be in. As you probably know
> > prior to the gig he slashed his hand with a knife (as you can see in the
> > polaroid pic he took of it which is on the front cover of the vinyl
> > bootleg)
> >
> > I have heard him tell the story that he did it to get rid of the Manchester
> > band A Certain Ratio who were in the dressing room and wouldn't leave when
> > he asked them to.
> >
> > And can anyone make out what he is saying during the second song? He seems
> > to be ranting a lot and it's really hard to make out what he is saying but
> > there are a few lines he keeps repeating, such as "I've seen my baby die" I
> > am of the opinion that maybe Cosey had had an abortion in the past and
> > maybe that is what he is in such a state about? Is there anyone here who
> > attended the gig or who can make out anymore of the words in the second
> > song?
> >
> > TIA
> >
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