[Grief] ptv euro tour cancelled

ryan martin karnak77 at hotmail.com
Sat Oct 6 23:17:36 PDT 2007


just a note, all the U.S. east coast tour dates are still ON since their former manager had nothing to do with booking the U.S. dates (thankfully).

you can get tickets on www.genesisp-orridge.com

Ryan

> From: swindonbakery at hotmail.com
> To: grief at hollyfeld.org
> Subject: RE: [Grief] ptv euro tour cancelled
> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:21:21 +0000
> 
> A very sad state of affairs.
> 
> (from one of the new PTV fans).
> 
> 
> From: "danny b" <danny at ukbears.freeserve.co.uk>
> Reply-To: grief at hollyfeld.org
> To: <grief at hollyfeld.org>
> Subject: [Grief] ptv euro tour cancelled
> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:16:39 +0100
> 
> hi guys in case you haven'#t seen this announcement on ptv's myspace and are
> inteding to travel or have bought tickets for the tour etc...
> 
> 
> 
> FOR ALL OUR NEW AND LOYAL FANS.
> 
> DUE TO MISMANAGEMENT AND AGENCY
> 
> INCOMPETENCE WE ARE SAD TO ANNOUNCE
> 
> 
> 
> PSYCHIC TV/PTV3 HAVE CHOSEN TO
> 
> CANCEL THE REMAINING PART OF OUR
> 
> CURRENT EUROPEAN DETOUR AS OF
> 
> 1st OCTOBER 2007!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Fans, As some of you will already know, despite our best intentions,
> this current European detour has been plagued with Management and Agency
> incompetence thanks to a certain Adam Elfin who was serving in both those
> roles. He was requested TWO YEARS AGO to set up this detour in a clear,
> profitable and practical manner to ensure the best possible gig experience
> for PTV3 and fans.
> 
> 
> 
> Despite the apparent simplicity of this task and absolute assurances in
> writing (saved emails) from said Adam Elfin it has become tragically
> apparent that PTV3, our crews and our fan base were seriously misled!
> 
> 
> 
> Before leaving the USA for Europe band members and MATSKI our Tour Manager
> and front of house mixing person repeatedly emailed and phoned Adam "Bedlam"
> Elfin for a finalized budget and list of gig venues. None of us EVER
> received the endlessly promised budget. We did receive the list of gigs that
> were listed on our My Space page and printed on the back of tour t-shirts.
> But NO budget. An early email promised the band members very small fees for
> playing the detour. PTV3 all chose to TRUST Adam Elfin's unsubstantiated
> assurances and get on the plane to Europe.
> 
> 
> 
> People living in Glasgow were the first to suffer directly, as they
> discovered the PTV3 gig cancelled at the last minute NOT BY PTV3 but because
> AE had failed to actually confirm the show. As PTV3 traveled through
> Bristol, Leeds, Birmingham UK we were told by each promoter they'd "ONLY HAD
> THREE WEEKS NOTICE THE GIG WAS CONFIRMED". Thus they were too late to
> promote effectively even with their very best intentions.
> 
> This seemed weird to us, as there had been ample time for any professional
> agent worth their salt to book the detour with 2 years. In the past PTV3
> detours were fully confirmed 6 months before leaving. We began to be
> concerned.
> 
> 
> 
> Adam Elfin continued to avoid emails asking for SPECIFIC information on the
> rest of the gig dates. He also failed to phone us despite our having 4 cell
> phone numbers available on the bus.
> 
> 
> 
> It is worth pointing out that it was actually MATSKI who was forced to pull
> in favors at the last minute to ensure we even had a bus and backline
> equipment (i.e. amps, drums, etc).
> 
> 
> 
> Once we got to mainland Europe we discovered similar problems. Shows
> confirmed 3 weeks before we arrived quite often. Those confirmed longer (5
> weeks!! Which is still pathetically short notice) were promoted enough to be
> packed proving our basic theory that long-term promotion a packed gig doth
> make.
> 
> 
> 
> Then gigs we'd been promised began to mysteriously disappear. Leaving the
> coming 8 days with only 3 small gigs. A band like PTV3 on the road costs
> approx: 2000 Euro a day MINIMUM before they even play. People must eat,
> drivers be paid, bus and equipment paid for whether you play or not. This is
> all BEFORE the band and Tour Manager get paid.
> 
> 
> 
> To date. Despite working really hard and traveling exhausting distances, not
> staying in Hotels, none of PTV3 or MATSKI has been paid a single Euro for
> playing!!!! We all chose to sacrifice a LOT to play for you and have no
> regrets about that. But we WERE assured minimum fees to at least PARTLY
> cover rent and bills at home. So that with our paltry savings we could just
> avoid HOMELESSNESS whilst still doing what we do best and LOVE. Playing in
> Psychic TV/PTV3.
> 
> 
> 
> The most common thing said to us at every single gig so far has been: -
> 
> "THAT WAS THE BEST, MOST EXCITING GIG I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY WHOLE
> LIFE.THANK YOU."
> 
> 
> 
> By the time we got to Stockholm we were getting desperate. Adam Elfin was
> STILL ignoring our urgent email messages and we had no idea how many gigs
> were still viable nor how much we would earn to cover costs nor if any of us
> would ever be paid even one Euro for 6 weeks brutally tiring creative work!
> And Adam Elfin had still not sent a full and clear budget.
> 
> 
> 
> Feeling sad and betrayed we were forced to use the information we DID scrape
> together to analyze our financial position. What we discovered was we the
> entire detour was in debt day to day. And that NOBODY in PTV3, not crew, nor
> Matski would be paid anything. Further, we would be unable to pay for the
> bus, and backline. As Adam Elfin had managed to still be paid a still
> UNKNOWN number of advances. We could end up owing tens of thousands of
> dollars ourselves.
> 
> 
> 
> Finally last night Adam "Bedlam" Elfin of ARCHANGEL MANAGEMENT called us at
> 1am. After 90 minutes of requesting he guarantee we were paid our minimums
> AND that he tell us the still confirmed gigs he would NOT give us ANY clear,
> specific financial information. In fact he seemed to avoid saying anything
> that could prove the detour could survive financially and failed many times
> to guarantee we would ever be paid. He simple begged for 48 more hours!
> 
> 
> 
> All that would do was commit us to 3-5 days waiting for him to keep his
> promises whilst sitting idle on the road losing 2-3000 Euros per day. In
> case he suddenly changed his way of working and told us what we needed to
> know.
> 
> 
> 
> PLEASE BE VERY CLEAR.PTV3 REALLY WANTED TO FINISH THIS DETOUR AS PLANNED.
> PLEASE ALSO BE VERY VERY CLEAR.THE ENTIRE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE REST OF
> THIS DETOUR BEING CANCELLED BELONGS TO ADAM ELFIN and his ARCHANGEL
> MANAGEMENT and his FIRST CONTACT AGENCY.
> 
> 
> 
> The general consensus of opinion right now is that it is entirely due to
> ADAM ELFIN's consistent mismanagement and appalling failures in scheduling
> and budgeting this detour.
> 
> 
> 
> Genesis says S/He has never experienced such appalling planning or
> obstructive lack of communication in 39 years of touring in bands.
> 
> 
> 
> After once again being promised a positive paying budget and finalized gig
> schedule last night in Stockholm by Adam Elfin, once again it failed to
> appear this morning.
> 
> 
> 
> At this point it became impossible to continue the detour. PTV3 are still
> left personally trying to pay off the bus and backline. PTV3 are also
> borrowing money to be able to get home to New York. Adam Elfin meanwhile has
> received quite a few advances from promoters that should keep him as happy
> as he ever appears to get!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT AS OF OCTOBER 1st 2007 Psychic TV/PTV3 has sacked
> Adam Elfin and his spurious companies. If you want to email him you can
> reach him at
> 
> AE at archangelmanagement.com OR AT
> 
> AE at firstcontactagency.com
> 
> 
> 
> AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE BEEN FORCED TO CANCEL THIS EUROPEAN
> DETOUR BY FORCES OF APALLING INCOMPETENCE BEYOND OUR CONTROL.
> 
> 
> 
> We love our fans; we love PTV3 and WE WILL RETURN.
> 
> 
> 
> PTV3.STORMTROOPERS OF EVOLUTION!!!!!
> 
> 
> 
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