[Grief] Gen and his fame

Daveid Phillips daveid at koko.uk.com
Wed Sep 6 20:03:19 PDT 2006


> Errrr, thousands of people who love Gen, would beg to differ that  
> his 15 minutes is up, I for one think he is in fine famous fettle,  
> having witnessed TG in Berlin and now looking forward to the new  
> PTV3 shows, I am well excited, in the mean time why we have all  
> this fun,  might I suggest you try real hard and get over it.

Trot on

D.

>
> Oh brother, here we go again...
>
> Poor Auntie Gen Gen.  When will he realize that his 15 minutes of  
> fame expired long ago.
>
> I can't speak for Alex Ferguson but what a travesty.
>
> telepathic regards,
> the kooky scientist
>
>
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>> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:58:38 +0100
>> From: "Freenoise UK" <freenoiseuk at blueyonder.co.uk>
>> Subject: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
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>> PSYCHIC TV 2006 UK dates:
>> Oct 5th - Sheffield The Boardwalk
>> Oct 6th - Birmingham Barfly
>> Oct 7th - London Astoria
>>
>> Tickets for Sheffield on ebay (same price)
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
>> ViewItem&ih=017&item=270025506751
>>
>> http://www.freenoise.co.uk/articles/oct06/psychic-tv.htm
>>
>> Those of you who have seen PTV3 live will know that you get two  
>> hours of
>> high energy hyperdelic rock.
>> The latest Psychic TV studio album for eleven years,
>> "Hell is Invisible...Heaven is Her/e"
>> is to be released in September to coincide with the tour and  
>> features Nick
>> Zinner of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on guitar and the vocal of Gibby  
>> Haynes from
>> The Butthole Surfers. A year in the making, Genesis has called the  
>> album, a
>> "dark side of the moon for the 21st Century". The live show will  
>> feature
>> much of the new album and hopefully reworked old favorites such as
>> 'Godstar', 'Really Free' and 'Ov Power' and features and all new  
>> video light
>> show by Sterile Cowboy
>>
>> Line up (tbc):
>> Genesis Breyer P-Orridge - Vocals / Noise bass
>> Lady Jaye Breyer P-Orridge - Samples
>> Morrison Edley (Toilet Boys) - Drums
>> Alice Genese (Candy Ass / Pretty Boys) - Bass.
>> David Max (HIT) - Guitars.
>> Markus Aurelius Cirkus Maximus Dangerous Fabulous Persson -  
>> Keyboards.
>>
>> More sporadic info from Genesis at http://www.genesisp-orridge.com
>> Psychic TV website: www.myspace.com/ptv3
>>
>>
>> GENESIS P-ORRIDGE was born in Manchester, England in 1950. He was  
>> a member
>> of the Kinetic action group Exploding Galaxy/Transmedia  
>> Exploration in
>> 1969-70. He conceived and founded the seminal British "performance  
>> art"
>> group Coum Transmissions in August 1969. He became a member of  
>> Throbbing
>> Gristle in 1975, of Psychic TV in 1981, and of spoken word/ambient  
>> theatre
>> group Thee Majesty in 1999. He invented the term/genre "Industrial  
>> Music"
>> (with Monte Cazazza) on September 3rd, 1975. He has released more  
>> than 200
>> CDs of experiments in music to date. He has worked and  
>> collaborated with
>> William S. Burroughs; Brion Gysin (inventor of "Cut-Ups");  
>> filmaker Derek
>> Jarman; Dr. Timothy Leary among others.
>> As an early pioneer of Rave Movement in UK and USA, he has published
>> thousands of articles, texts, interviews covering the functional and
>> metaphysical implications and strategies of popular culture. He  
>> has also
>> explored human behaviour, ritual, and personality modification  
>> through the
>> splintering of expectations in private situations to create collaged
>> "Sigils." He currently lives in New York as a musician, author,  
>> cultural
>> engineer/commentator and fine artist. The most controversial of  
>> his latest
>> live art is the 'pandrogyny' project; the annihalation of sexual  
>> gender.
>> More info available at www.genesisp-orridge.com
>>
>> Psychic TV has a long and storied history that can never be done  
>> justice in
>> a concise bio. Therefore, we will not take much space with its  
>> telling, but
>> will direct the majestic reader to one of the many sites that have  
>> taken it
>> on with aplomb, such as www.GenesisP-Orridge.com. Instead, we wish  
>> to focus
>> on the near past, present and near futures of PTV3 as it takes  
>> flight for
>> all to marvel. Psychic TV's last incarnation ended several years  
>> ago with
>> the release of the dreamy 'Trip Reset'. It was recently seen  
>> selling at
>> Ameoba Records in Los Angeles filed away under 'industrial' music,  
>> which it
>> could not be further from due to its soft, obviously psychedelic  
>> textures
>> and imagery. But Genesis P-Orridge has always carried on her back  
>> the weight
>> of the work that she has created in the past, and because of her  
>> work with
>> some of the most legendary of sonic anarchists, Throbbing Gristle.  
>> Throbbing
>> Gristle could accurately be described as 'industrial', some of the  
>> time. But
>> TG's music is too slippery to be categorized, yet we must  
>> categorize, musn't
>> we? So it seems that wherever Gen goes, so must the tag. But make no
>> mistake, Psychic TV is and has been a much different experiment.  
>> Drawing on
>> the influences of Genesis' past, mostly his/her early years as a  
>> deviant Mod
>> in 1960's London, PTV would mix and match or 'cut-up' sight/sound/ 
>> feeling to
>> create new psychedelic fumes for us to breath. For many years she  
>> did just
>> that, until Psychic TV gave way to Thee Majesty, Genesis' spoken
>> word/ambient sound project with Bryin Dall and Larry Thrasher.  
>> Thee Majesty
>> went on to make many otherwordly recordings and give sumptuous live
>> performances. Thee Majesty re-energized Gens commitment to sound,  
>> but that
>> was not enough for her. In 2003, Genesis, in conjunction with the  
>> prodding
>> of old friend Electric Eddie O'dowd (drummer of NY Glam legends,  
>> Toilet
>> Boys), the decision to reform PTV was made. With Eddie signed on  
>> as drummer
>> and creative co-director, the two began to design their dream  
>> incarnation of
>> the band. The band would encompass all that PTV had been  
>> stylistically from
>> their early no-wave sound through to the 'hyperdelic' trance rock  
>> of the
>> late eighties and early nineties. But it would not be limited to past
>> versions of PTV. It would be everything Genesis ever wanted PTV to  
>> be, that
>> it wasn't. This sound would be linked to Brian Jones, Syd Barrett,  
>> Don Van
>> Vliet, and all the psychedelic pioneers of the past and the ones  
>> Gen and
>> Eddie were listening to in the present. They began looking around  
>> NY for the
>> perfect players, like souled-minds who could help make their  
>> vision reality.
>> This new band would also incorporate the influences of all the  
>> players,
>> forming a collaboration in the truest sense. Alice Genese, bass
>> vibrationalist of power acts Sexpod, CandyAss, and most recently  
>> Pretty Boys
>> was tapped to rumble the drinks off tables. Like Alice, an old  
>> friend of
>> Eddies from the miasma of East Village scenes past, David Max was  
>> asked to
>> step into the role of guitar player. David had performed in  
>> psychedelic
>> noise band Tadpoles and more recently HIT, the drug/studio  
>> experiment that
>> was only known to those lucky enough to wander into its lair.  
>> Markus Persson
>> joined as keyboardist through sheer persistence and power of will.  
>> Markus, a
>> fan of Gens since he was a small podling, literally pushed his way  
>> into PTV
>> and has made his keyboard into more that just keys, squeezing out  
>> sounds
>> that would make the pope cry. Eddie would set the groove and Gens
>> pandrogynous other half Lady J would operate various sampling and  
>> percussive
>> mechanisms. But wait a second, what is Pandrogyny, you may ask?  
>> Pandrogyny
>> is art, more specifically, it is a concept/project of Lady Jaye  
>> and Genesis'
>> that attempts to analyze the future of evolution as it pertains to  
>> the human
>> body and gender, with the goal of illuminating the very real  
>> possiblities
>> provided by modern technology to alter our bodies thereby altering  
>> our minds
>> and our societies. But maybe we should just ask Genesis. "We are  
>> not trying
>> to look like twins, though we wouldn't mind that if it were  
>> possible. We are
>> seeking to give an initial impression ov visual similarity as far  
>> as we can.
>> As a 56 y-era old biological male who is 5 foot six inches with a  
>> 30 inch
>> waist E can never reasonably expect to look identical to Lady Jaye  
>> Who is a
>> biological female who is 35 y-eras old and 5 foot 10 inches high  
>> with a 24
>> inch waist. Butter we are interested in thee concept ov PANDROGENY  
>> and being
>> coumitted enough to surrender our bodies to surguries even if we  
>> end up not
>> liking how we look. That is not what we are concerned with. We  
>> have no urge
>> to try and "look better", or younger, or more "glamourous". Nor  
>> are we
>> changing gender. Pandrogeny is about neutralising gender in order to
>> REPRESENT a future possibility for thee species. I.T. is a way ov  
>> BEING not
>> a way ov looking, butter we use thee visual cues to give an  
>> impression that
>> symbolises EVOLUTION and radical biological and structural change.  
>> Thee
>> human body is not sacred. Far from I.T. thee body is a container  
>> within
>> which dwells thee MIND. Thee consciousness. "YOU" are/is thee  
>> collection ov
>> memories, thoughts, and experiences stored in coum miraculous way  
>> in thee
>> brain and nervous system coumbined with thee species recording  
>> device DNA.
>> Your body is a means ov tasting thee wonders ov physical material  
>> existence
>> and ov giving thee ethereal consciousness that is you a means ov  
>> mobility
>> and ov sensory perception. Thee body transmits to you both to  
>> experience,
>> and to protect and maintain your container." With Pandrogyny, Gen is
>> lighting a path of philosophical revolution, and to it, PTV3 adds the
>> hyperdelic soundtrack and ritualized ecstatic sensual overload  
>> that provides
>> a place to be free to explore ourselves. (To be continued...)
>> Taken from www.myspace.com/ptv3
>>
>> 2006 UK dates:
>> Oct 5th - Sheffield The Boardwalk
>> Oct 6th - Birmingham Barfly
>> Oct 7th - London Astoria
>> _______________________
>>
>> BELOW IS AN OLD MESSAGE WHICH IS APPEARING AT THE TOP OF THE  
>> SEARCH FOR
>> PSYCHIC TV TOUR - THIS COPY IS AN ATTEMPT TO KNOCK THE OUT OF DATE  
>> MSG OFF
>> THE SEARCH
>>
>> [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
>> Jeff Tomlinson brak109 at hotmail.com
>> Sun Aug 22 19:55:04 EDT 2004
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>>
>>
>> no toronto date? this sucks. i bet if they came to toronto it  
>> would be in
>> some place that would only allow people over the age of 19 anyways.
>> although, i hope if they decide to  come to toronto in the near  
>> future they
>> consider the under 19's and make the show all ages.
>>
>> anyone whos seen ptv, have the shows ever been all ages?
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Livewire Confusion
>>   To: grief at hollyfeld.org
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:12 PM
>>   Subject: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
>>
>>
>>   Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
>>
>>   Announced by whom, you ask? Me, of course!
>>
>>   I got these tour dates from a member of the RE~TG MSN group who  
>> found the
>> link.
>>
>>   European Tour Dates:
>>
>>   Sat 18.09.04, Underground, Cologne, Germany. (350)
>>   Sun 19.09.04, Patronaat, Haarlem, The Netherlands. (520)
>>   Mon 20.09.04, Hafenklang Hamburg, Germany. (250)
>>   Tue 21.09.04, Vega, Copenhagen, Denmark. (450).
>>   Wed 22.09.04, John Dee, Oslo, Norway. (400)
>>   Thu 23.09.04, OFF
>>   Fri 24.09.04, Volsbuehne, Berlin, Germany (700)
>>   Sat 25.09.04, St. John's Church, Gdansk, Poland. (1,200)
>>   Sun 26.09.04, Proxima, Warsaw, Poland. (900)
>>   Mon 27.09.04, OFF
>>   Tue 28.09.04, ????, Dresden/ Munich / Frankfurt, Germany.
>>   Wed 29.09.04, Abaton, Prague, Czech Republic. (600)
>>   Thu 30.09.04, Monastery, Vienna, Austria. (350)
>>   Fri 01.10.04, Mocvara, Zagreb, Croatia. (450)
>>   Sat 02.10.04, Ministry, Firenze, Italy. (1,000)
>>   Sun 03.10.04, OFF
>>   Mon 04.10.04, Bad Bonn, Duedingen, Switzerland. (200)
>>   Tue 05.10.04, La Maroquinerie, Paris, France. (400)
>>   Wed 06.10.04, CC Luchtbal, Antwerp, Belgium. (400/1,000)
>>   Thu 07.10.04, OFF
>>   Fri 08.10.04, Sa Bandeira, Porto, Portugal. (1,200)
>>   Sat 09.10.04, The Forum, London, UK. (2,110)
>>   Sun 10.10.04, TNT Club, Athens, Greece
>>   Mon 11.10.04, off-travel
>>   Tue 12.10.04, Moscow, Russia
>>   Wed 13.10.04, St. Petersburg, Russia
>>
>>
>>   U.S.A. Tour Dates:
>>
>>   Tue 11/2/04, Los Angeles, CA, Knitting Factory
>>   Wed 11/3/04, San Francisco, CA, DNA Lounge
>>   Fri, 11/5/04, Portland, OR, Sabala's
>>   Sat 11/6/04, Seattle, WA, Chop Suey
>>
>>   Don't believe me? Check out Leafy Green Booking's website
>> http://www.leafygreen.com/ click on "tour dates" scroll down  
>> alphabetically,
>> and POOF, it appears on your right hand side.
>>
>>   See you in London.
>>
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>> no toronto date? this sucks. i bet if they came to toronto it  
>> would be in
>> some place that would only allow people over the age of 19 anyways.
>> although, i hope if they decide to  come to toronto in the near  
>> future they
>> consider the under 19's and make the show all ages.
>>
>> anyone whos seen ptv, have the shows ever been all ages?
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Livewire Confusion
>>   To: grief at hollyfeld.org
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:12 PM
>>   Subject: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
>>
>>
>>   Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
>>
>>   Announced by whom, you ask? Me, of course!
>>
>>   I got these tour dates from a member of the RE~TG MSN group who  
>> found the
>> link.
>>
>>   European Tour Dates:
>>
>>   Sat 18.09.04, Underground, Cologne, Germany. (350)
>>   Sun 19.09.04, Patronaat, Haarlem, The Netherlands. (520)
>>   Mon 20.09.04, Hafenklang Hamburg, Germany. (250)
>>   Tue 21.09.04, Vega, Copenhagen, Denmark. (450).
>>   Wed 22.09.04, John Dee, Oslo, Norway. (400)
>>   Thu 23.09.04, OFF
>>   Fri 24.09.04, Volsbuehne, Berlin, Germany (700)
>>   Sat 25.09.04, St. John's Church, Gdansk, Poland. (1,200)
>>   Sun 26.09.04, Proxima, Warsaw, Poland. (900)
>>   Mon 27.09.04, OFF
>>   Tue 28.09.04, ????, Dresden/ Munich / Frankfurt, Germany.
>>   Wed 29.09.04, Abaton, Prague, Czech Republic. (600)
>>   Thu 30.09.04, Monastery, Vienna, Austria. (350)
>>   Fri 01.10.04, Mocvara, Zagreb, Croatia. (450)
>>   Sat 02.10.04, Ministry, Firenze, Italy. (1,000)
>>   Sun 03.10.04, OFF
>>   Mon 04.10.04, Bad Bonn, Duedingen, Switzerland. (200)
>>   Tue 05.10.04, La Maroquinerie, Paris, France. (400)
>>   Wed 06.10.04, CC Luchtbal, Antwerp, Belgium. (400/1,000)
>>   Thu 07.10.04, OFF
>>   Fri 08.10.04, Sa Bandeira, Porto, Portugal. (1,200)
>>   Sat 09.10.04, The Forum, London, UK. (2,110)
>>   Sun 10.10.04, TNT Club, Athens, Greece
>>   Mon 11.10.04, off-travel
>>   Tue 12.10.04, Moscow, Russia
>>   Wed 13.10.04, St. Petersburg, Russia
>>
>>
>>   U.S.A. Tour Dates:
>>
>>   Tue 11/2/04, Los Angeles, CA, Knitting Factory
>>   Wed 11/3/04, San Francisco, CA, DNA Lounge
>>   Fri, 11/5/04, Portland, OR, Sabala's
>>   Sat 11/6/04, Seattle, WA, Chop Suey
>>
>>   Don't believe me? Check out Leafy Green Booking's website
>> http://www.leafygreen.com/ click on "tour dates" scroll down  
>> alphabetically,
>> and POOF, it appears on your right hand side.
>>
>>   See you in London.
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:30:08 +0100 (BST)
> From: David Bourgoin <david_bourgoin at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Grief] Re: Grief Digest, Vol 46, Issue 1
> To: grief at hollyfeld.org
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> Why are you always so bitter about PTV. There is no
> point dwelling on things that have past. Time to move
> on. You're starting to sound like a stuck record.
>
> Lots of people still enjoy what Gen does. He may look
> a bit daft these days but he can still put on an
> enjoyable show.
>
> Dave B
>
>
> --- telepathic at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Oh brother, here we go again...
>>
>> Poor Auntie Gen Gen.  When will he realize that his
>> 15 minutes of fame expired long ago.
>>
>> I can't speak for Alex Ferguson but what a travesty.
>>
>> telepathic regards,
>> the kooky scientist
>>
>>
>>  -------------- Original message
>> ----------------------
>> From: grief-request at hollyfeld.org
>>> Send Grief mailing list submissions to
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>>>    1. Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced! (Freenoise
>> UK)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:58:38 +0100
>>> From: "Freenoise UK"
>> <freenoiseuk at blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> Subject: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
>>> To: <grief at hollyfeld.org>
>>> Message-ID:
>> <009501c6d043$5e1b46f0$020ba8c0 at FREENOISE>
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>>> PSYCHIC TV 2006 UK dates:
>>> Oct 5th - Sheffield The Boardwalk
>>> Oct 6th - Birmingham Barfly
>>> Oct 7th - London Astoria
>>>
>>> Tickets for Sheffield on ebay (same price)
>>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? 
> ViewItem&ih=017&item=270025506751
>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.freenoise.co.uk/articles/oct06/psychic-tv.htm
>>>
>>> Those of you who have seen PTV3 live will know
>> that you get two hours of
>>> high energy hyperdelic rock.
>>> The latest Psychic TV studio album for eleven
>> years,
>>> "Hell is Invisible...Heaven is Her/e"
>>> is to be released in September to coincide with
>> the tour and features Nick
>>> Zinner of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on guitar and the
>> vocal of Gibby Haynes from
>>> The Butthole Surfers. A year in the making,
>> Genesis has called the album, a
>>> "dark side of the moon for the 21st Century". The
>> live show will feature
>>> much of the new album and hopefully reworked old
>> favorites such as
>>> 'Godstar', 'Really Free' and 'Ov Power' and
>> features and all new video light
>>> show by Sterile Cowboy
>>>
>>> Line up (tbc):
>>> Genesis Breyer P-Orridge - Vocals / Noise bass
>>> Lady Jaye Breyer P-Orridge - Samples
>>> Morrison Edley (Toilet Boys) - Drums
>>> Alice Genese (Candy Ass / Pretty Boys) - Bass.
>>> David Max (HIT) - Guitars.
>>> Markus Aurelius Cirkus Maximus Dangerous Fabulous
>> Persson - Keyboards.
>>>
>>> More sporadic info from Genesis at
>> http://www.genesisp-orridge.com
>>> Psychic TV website: www.myspace.com/ptv3
>>>
>>>
>>> GENESIS P-ORRIDGE was born in Manchester, England
>> in 1950. He was a member
>>> of the Kinetic action group Exploding
>> Galaxy/Transmedia Exploration in
>>> 1969-70. He conceived and founded the seminal
>> British "performance art"
>>> group Coum Transmissions in August 1969. He became
>> a member of Throbbing
>>> Gristle in 1975, of Psychic TV in 1981, and of
>> spoken word/ambient theatre
>>> group Thee Majesty in 1999. He invented the
>> term/genre "Industrial Music"
>>> (with Monte Cazazza) on September 3rd, 1975. He
>> has released more than 200
>>> CDs of experiments in music to date. He has worked
>> and collaborated with
>>> William S. Burroughs; Brion Gysin (inventor of
>> "Cut-Ups"); filmaker Derek
>>> Jarman; Dr. Timothy Leary among others.
>>> As an early pioneer of Rave Movement in UK and
>> USA, he has published
>>> thousands of articles, texts, interviews covering
>> the functional and
>>> metaphysical implications and strategies of
>> popular culture. He has also
>>> explored human behaviour, ritual, and personality
>> modification through the
>>> splintering of expectations in private situations
>> to create collaged
>>> "Sigils." He currently lives in New York as a
>> musician, author, cultural
>>> engineer/commentator and fine artist. The most
>> controversial of his latest
>>> live art is the 'pandrogyny' project; the
>> annihalation of sexual gender.
>>> More info available at www.genesisp-orridge.com
>>>
>>> Psychic TV has a long and storied history that can
>> never be done justice in
>>> a concise bio. Therefore, we will not take much
>> space with its telling, but
>>> will direct the majestic reader to one of the many
>> sites that have taken it
>>> on with aplomb, such as www.GenesisP-Orridge.com.
>> Instead, we wish to focus
>>> on the near past, present and near futures of PTV3
>> as it takes flight for
>>> all to marvel. Psychic TV's last incarnation ended
>> several years ago with
>>> the release of the dreamy 'Trip Reset'. It was
>> recently seen selling at
>>> Ameoba Records in Los Angeles filed away under
>> 'industrial' music, which it
>>> could not be further from due to its soft,
>> obviously psychedelic textures
>>> and imagery. But Genesis P-Orridge has always
>> carried on her back the weight
>>> of the work that she has created in the past, and
>> because of her work with
>>> some of the most legendary of sonic anarchists,
>> Throbbing Gristle. Throbbing
>>> Gristle could accurately be described as
>> 'industrial', some of the time. But
>>> TG's music is too slippery to be categorized, yet
>> we must categorize, musn't
>>> we? So it seems that wherever Gen goes, so must
>> the tag. But make no
>>> mistake, Psychic TV is and has been a much
>> different experiment. Drawing on
>>> the influences of Genesis' past, mostly his/her
>> early years as a deviant Mod
>>> in 1960's London, PTV would mix and match or
>> 'cut-up' sight/sound/feeling to
>>> create new psychedelic fumes for us to breath. For
>> many years she did just
>>> that, until Psychic TV gave way to Thee Majesty,
>> Genesis' spoken
>>> word/ambient sound project with Bryin Dall and
>> Larry Thrasher. Thee Majesty
>>> went on to make many otherwordly recordings and
>> give sumptuous live
>>> performances. Thee Majesty re-energized Gens
>> commitment to sound, but that
>>> was not enough for her. In 2003, Genesis, in
>> conjunction with the prodding
>>> of old friend Electric Eddie O'dowd (drummer of NY
>> Glam legends, Toilet
>>> Boys), the decision to reform PTV was made. With
>> Eddie signed on as drummer
>>> and creative co-director, the two began to design
>> their dream incarnation of
>>> the band. The band would encompass all that PTV
>> had been stylistically from
>>> their early no-wave sound through to the
>> 'hyperdelic' trance rock of the
>>> late eighties and early nineties. But it would not
>> be limited to past
>>> versions of PTV. It would be everything Genesis
>> ever wanted PTV to be, that
>>> it wasn't. This sound would be linked to Brian
>> Jones, Syd Barrett, Don Van
>>> Vliet, and all the psychedelic pioneers of the
>> past
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> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:45:34 +0000
> From: "C. A. Polk" <capolk at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Grief] Re: Grief Digest, Vol 46, Issue 1
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>> From: David Bourgoin <david_bourgoin at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Why are you always so bitter about PTV. There is no
>> point dwelling on things that have past. Time to move
>> on. You're starting to sound like a stuck record.
>
> There is also no point in being excited about something simply  
> because it's
> new. Nor is it pointless to "dwell" on something past, if that  
> something has
> merit.
>
>> Lots of people still enjoy what Gen does. He may look
>> a bit daft these days but he can still put on an enjoyable show.
>
> 20, 30 years later - and this is now what we're happy with? "An  
> enjoyable
> show"? And South American TG "tribute" albums?
>
> Lots of people also still enjoy what TG did (and PTV too, for that  
> matter).
> And find most of this stuff rather sad. If you can say your piece,  
> we can
> say ours.
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