[Grief] Re: Grief Digest, Vol 46, Issue 1

telepathic at comcast.net telepathic at comcast.net
Mon Sep 4 22:48:17 PDT 2006


Oh brother, here we go again...

Poor Auntie Gen Gen.  When will he realize that his 15 minutes of fame expired long ago. 

I can't speak for Alex Ferguson but what a travesty.

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


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> From: "Freenoise UK" <freenoiseuk at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
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> PSYCHIC TV 2006 UK dates:
> Oct 5th - Sheffield The Boardwalk
> Oct 6th - Birmingham Barfly
> Oct 7th - London Astoria
> 
> Tickets for Sheffield on ebay (same price)
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=017&item=270025506751
> 
> http://www.freenoise.co.uk/articles/oct06/psychic-tv.htm
> 
> Those of you who have seen PTV3 live will know that you get two hours of 
> high energy hyperdelic rock.
> The latest Psychic TV studio album for eleven years,
> "Hell is Invisible...Heaven is Her/e"
> is to be released in September to coincide with the tour and features Nick 
> Zinner of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on guitar and the vocal of Gibby Haynes from 
> The Butthole Surfers. A year in the making, Genesis has called the album, a 
> "dark side of the moon for the 21st Century". The live show will feature 
> much of the new album and hopefully reworked old favorites such as 
> 'Godstar', 'Really Free' and 'Ov Power' and features and all new video light 
> show by Sterile Cowboy
> 
> Line up (tbc):
> Genesis Breyer P-Orridge - Vocals / Noise bass
> Lady Jaye Breyer P-Orridge - Samples
> Morrison Edley (Toilet Boys) - Drums
> Alice Genese (Candy Ass / Pretty Boys) - Bass.
> David Max (HIT) - Guitars.
> Markus Aurelius Cirkus Maximus Dangerous Fabulous Persson - Keyboards.
> 
> More sporadic info from Genesis at http://www.genesisp-orridge.com
> Psychic TV website: www.myspace.com/ptv3
> 
> 
> GENESIS P-ORRIDGE was born in Manchester, England in 1950. He was a member 
> of the Kinetic action group Exploding Galaxy/Transmedia Exploration in 
> 1969-70. He conceived and founded the seminal British "performance art" 
> group Coum Transmissions in August 1969. He became a member of Throbbing 
> Gristle in 1975, of Psychic TV in 1981, and of spoken word/ambient theatre 
> group Thee Majesty in 1999. He invented the term/genre "Industrial Music" 
> (with Monte Cazazza) on September 3rd, 1975. He has released more than 200 
> CDs of experiments in music to date. He has worked and collaborated with 
> William S. Burroughs; Brion Gysin (inventor of "Cut-Ups"); filmaker Derek 
> Jarman; Dr. Timothy Leary among others.
> As an early pioneer of Rave Movement in UK and USA, he has published 
> thousands of articles, texts, interviews covering the functional and 
> metaphysical implications and strategies of popular culture. He has also 
> explored human behaviour, ritual, and personality modification through the 
> splintering of expectations in private situations to create collaged 
> "Sigils." He currently lives in New York as a musician, author, cultural 
> engineer/commentator and fine artist. The most controversial of his latest 
> live art is the 'pandrogyny' project; the annihalation of sexual gender. 
> More info available at www.genesisp-orridge.com
> 
> Psychic TV has a long and storied history that can never be done justice in 
> a concise bio. Therefore, we will not take much space with its telling, but 
> will direct the majestic reader to one of the many sites that have taken it 
> on with aplomb, such as www.GenesisP-Orridge.com. Instead, we wish to focus 
> on the near past, present and near futures of PTV3 as it takes flight for 
> all to marvel. Psychic TV's last incarnation ended several years ago with 
> the release of the dreamy 'Trip Reset'. It was recently seen selling at 
> Ameoba Records in Los Angeles filed away under 'industrial' music, which it 
> could not be further from due to its soft, obviously psychedelic textures 
> and imagery. But Genesis P-Orridge has always carried on her back the weight 
> of the work that she has created in the past, and because of her work with 
> some of the most legendary of sonic anarchists, Throbbing Gristle. Throbbing 
> Gristle could accurately be described as 'industrial', some of the time. But 
> TG's music is too slippery to be categorized, yet we must categorize, musn't 
> we? So it seems that wherever Gen goes, so must the tag. But make no 
> mistake, Psychic TV is and has been a much different experiment. Drawing on 
> the influences of Genesis' past, mostly his/her early years as a deviant Mod 
> in 1960's London, PTV would mix and match or 'cut-up' sight/sound/feeling to 
> create new psychedelic fumes for us to breath. For many years she did just 
> that, until Psychic TV gave way to Thee Majesty, Genesis' spoken 
> word/ambient sound project with Bryin Dall and Larry Thrasher. Thee Majesty 
> went on to make many otherwordly recordings and give sumptuous live 
> performances. Thee Majesty re-energized Gens commitment to sound, but that 
> was not enough for her. In 2003, Genesis, in conjunction with the prodding 
> of old friend Electric Eddie O'dowd (drummer of NY Glam legends, Toilet 
> Boys), the decision to reform PTV was made. With Eddie signed on as drummer 
> and creative co-director, the two began to design their dream incarnation of 
> the band. The band would encompass all that PTV had been stylistically from 
> their early no-wave sound through to the 'hyperdelic' trance rock of the 
> late eighties and early nineties. But it would not be limited to past 
> versions of PTV. It would be everything Genesis ever wanted PTV to be, that 
> it wasn't. This sound would be linked to Brian Jones, Syd Barrett, Don Van 
> Vliet, and all the psychedelic pioneers of the past and the ones Gen and 
> Eddie were listening to in the present. They began looking around NY for the 
> perfect players, like souled-minds who could help make their vision reality. 
> This new band would also incorporate the influences of all the players, 
> forming a collaboration in the truest sense. Alice Genese, bass 
> vibrationalist of power acts Sexpod, CandyAss, and most recently Pretty Boys 
> was tapped to rumble the drinks off tables. Like Alice, an old friend of 
> Eddies from the miasma of East Village scenes past, David Max was asked to 
> step into the role of guitar player. David had performed in psychedelic 
> noise band Tadpoles and more recently HIT, the drug/studio experiment that 
> was only known to those lucky enough to wander into its lair. Markus Persson 
> joined as keyboardist through sheer persistence and power of will. Markus, a 
> fan of Gens since he was a small podling, literally pushed his way into PTV 
> and has made his keyboard into more that just keys, squeezing out sounds 
> that would make the pope cry. Eddie would set the groove and Gens 
> pandrogynous other half Lady J would operate various sampling and percussive 
> mechanisms. But wait a second, what is Pandrogyny, you may ask? Pandrogyny 
> is art, more specifically, it is a concept/project of Lady Jaye and Genesis' 
> that attempts to analyze the future of evolution as it pertains to the human 
> body and gender, with the goal of illuminating the very real possiblities 
> provided by modern technology to alter our bodies thereby altering our minds 
> and our societies. But maybe we should just ask Genesis. "We are not trying 
> to look like twins, though we wouldn't mind that if it were possible. We are 
> seeking to give an initial impression ov visual similarity as far as we can. 
> As a 56 y-era old biological male who is 5 foot six inches with a 30 inch 
> waist E can never reasonably expect to look identical to Lady Jaye Who is a 
> biological female who is 35 y-eras old and 5 foot 10 inches high with a 24 
> inch waist. Butter we are interested in thee concept ov PANDROGENY and being 
> coumitted enough to surrender our bodies to surguries even if we end up not 
> liking how we look. That is not what we are concerned with. We have no urge 
> to try and "look better", or younger, or more "glamourous". Nor are we 
> changing gender. Pandrogeny is about neutralising gender in order to 
> REPRESENT a future possibility for thee species. I.T. is a way ov BEING not 
> a way ov looking, butter we use thee visual cues to give an impression that 
> symbolises EVOLUTION and radical biological and structural change. Thee 
> human body is not sacred. Far from I.T. thee body is a container within 
> which dwells thee MIND. Thee consciousness. "YOU" are/is thee collection ov 
> memories, thoughts, and experiences stored in coum miraculous way in thee 
> brain and nervous system coumbined with thee species recording device DNA. 
> Your body is a means ov tasting thee wonders ov physical material existence 
> and ov giving thee ethereal consciousness that is you a means ov mobility 
> and ov sensory perception. Thee body transmits to you both to experience, 
> and to protect and maintain your container." With Pandrogyny, Gen is 
> lighting a path of philosophical revolution, and to it, PTV3 adds the 
> hyperdelic soundtrack and ritualized ecstatic sensual overload that provides 
> a place to be free to explore ourselves. (To be continued...)
> Taken from www.myspace.com/ptv3
> 
> 2006 UK dates:
> Oct 5th - Sheffield The Boardwalk
> Oct 6th - Birmingham Barfly
> Oct 7th - London Astoria
> _______________________
> 
> BELOW IS AN OLD MESSAGE WHICH IS APPEARING AT THE TOP OF THE SEARCH FOR 
> PSYCHIC TV TOUR - THIS COPY IS AN ATTEMPT TO KNOCK THE OUT OF DATE MSG OFF 
> THE SEARCH
> 
> [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
> Jeff Tomlinson brak109 at hotmail.com
> Sun Aug 22 19:55:04 EDT 2004
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> no toronto date? this sucks. i bet if they came to toronto it would be in 
> some place that would only allow people over the age of 19 anyways. 
> although, i hope if they decide to  come to toronto in the near future they 
> consider the under 19's and make the show all ages.
> 
> anyone whos seen ptv, have the shows ever been all ages?
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Livewire Confusion
>   To: grief at hollyfeld.org
>   Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:12 PM
>   Subject: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
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>   Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
> 
>   Announced by whom, you ask? Me, of course!
> 
>   I got these tour dates from a member of the RE~TG MSN group who found the 
> link.
> 
>   European Tour Dates:
> 
>   Sat 18.09.04, Underground, Cologne, Germany. (350)
>   Sun 19.09.04, Patronaat, Haarlem, The Netherlands. (520)
>   Mon 20.09.04, Hafenklang Hamburg, Germany. (250)
>   Tue 21.09.04, Vega, Copenhagen, Denmark. (450).
>   Wed 22.09.04, John Dee, Oslo, Norway. (400)
>   Thu 23.09.04, OFF
>   Fri 24.09.04, Volsbuehne, Berlin, Germany (700)
>   Sat 25.09.04, St. John's Church, Gdansk, Poland. (1,200)
>   Sun 26.09.04, Proxima, Warsaw, Poland. (900)
>   Mon 27.09.04, OFF
>   Tue 28.09.04, ????, Dresden/ Munich / Frankfurt, Germany.
>   Wed 29.09.04, Abaton, Prague, Czech Republic. (600)
>   Thu 30.09.04, Monastery, Vienna, Austria. (350)
>   Fri 01.10.04, Mocvara, Zagreb, Croatia. (450)
>   Sat 02.10.04, Ministry, Firenze, Italy. (1,000)
>   Sun 03.10.04, OFF
>   Mon 04.10.04, Bad Bonn, Duedingen, Switzerland. (200)
>   Tue 05.10.04, La Maroquinerie, Paris, France. (400)
>   Wed 06.10.04, CC Luchtbal, Antwerp, Belgium. (400/1,000)
>   Thu 07.10.04, OFF
>   Fri 08.10.04, Sa Bandeira, Porto, Portugal. (1,200)
>   Sat 09.10.04, The Forum, London, UK. (2,110)
>   Sun 10.10.04, TNT Club, Athens, Greece
>   Mon 11.10.04, off-travel
>   Tue 12.10.04, Moscow, Russia
>   Wed 13.10.04, St. Petersburg, Russia
> 
> 
>   U.S.A. Tour Dates:
> 
>   Tue 11/2/04, Los Angeles, CA, Knitting Factory
>   Wed 11/3/04, San Francisco, CA, DNA Lounge
>   Fri, 11/5/04, Portland, OR, Sabala's
>   Sat 11/6/04, Seattle, WA, Chop Suey
> 
>   Don't believe me? Check out Leafy Green Booking's website 
> http://www.leafygreen.com/ click on "tour dates" scroll down alphabetically, 
> and POOF, it appears on your right hand side.
> 
>   See you in London.
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> no toronto date? this sucks. i bet if they came to toronto it would be in 
> some place that would only allow people over the age of 19 anyways. 
> although, i hope if they decide to  come to toronto in the near future they 
> consider the under 19's and make the show all ages.
> 
> anyone whos seen ptv, have the shows ever been all ages?
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>   From: Livewire Confusion
>   To: grief at hollyfeld.org
>   Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:12 PM
>   Subject: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
> 
> 
>   Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
> 
>   Announced by whom, you ask? Me, of course!
> 
>   I got these tour dates from a member of the RE~TG MSN group who found the 
> link.
> 
>   European Tour Dates:
> 
>   Sat 18.09.04, Underground, Cologne, Germany. (350)
>   Sun 19.09.04, Patronaat, Haarlem, The Netherlands. (520)
>   Mon 20.09.04, Hafenklang Hamburg, Germany. (250)
>   Tue 21.09.04, Vega, Copenhagen, Denmark. (450).
>   Wed 22.09.04, John Dee, Oslo, Norway. (400)
>   Thu 23.09.04, OFF
>   Fri 24.09.04, Volsbuehne, Berlin, Germany (700)
>   Sat 25.09.04, St. John's Church, Gdansk, Poland. (1,200)
>   Sun 26.09.04, Proxima, Warsaw, Poland. (900)
>   Mon 27.09.04, OFF
>   Tue 28.09.04, ????, Dresden/ Munich / Frankfurt, Germany.
>   Wed 29.09.04, Abaton, Prague, Czech Republic. (600)
>   Thu 30.09.04, Monastery, Vienna, Austria. (350)
>   Fri 01.10.04, Mocvara, Zagreb, Croatia. (450)
>   Sat 02.10.04, Ministry, Firenze, Italy. (1,000)
>   Sun 03.10.04, OFF
>   Mon 04.10.04, Bad Bonn, Duedingen, Switzerland. (200)
>   Tue 05.10.04, La Maroquinerie, Paris, France. (400)
>   Wed 06.10.04, CC Luchtbal, Antwerp, Belgium. (400/1,000)
>   Thu 07.10.04, OFF
>   Fri 08.10.04, Sa Bandeira, Porto, Portugal. (1,200)
>   Sat 09.10.04, The Forum, London, UK. (2,110)
>   Sun 10.10.04, TNT Club, Athens, Greece
>   Mon 11.10.04, off-travel
>   Tue 12.10.04, Moscow, Russia
>   Wed 13.10.04, St. Petersburg, Russia
> 
> 
>   U.S.A. Tour Dates:
> 
>   Tue 11/2/04, Los Angeles, CA, Knitting Factory
>   Wed 11/3/04, San Francisco, CA, DNA Lounge
>   Fri, 11/5/04, Portland, OR, Sabala's
>   Sat 11/6/04, Seattle, WA, Chop Suey
> 
>   Don't believe me? Check out Leafy Green Booking's website 
> http://www.leafygreen.com/ click on "tour dates" scroll down alphabetically, 
> and POOF, it appears on your right hand side.
> 
>   See you in London.
> 
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