Antw: [Grief] TG24 extras

David Bourgoin david_bourgoin at
Fri Feb 6 20:46:57 EST 2004

I'd never thought of the similarity between Still and
TG24 or TG+ but now you come to mention it... Does
anyone know who designed the TG box was it TG?? And
who designed the cover for Still???

TG coming from an art background with Coum was I
always thought an important part of the whole package.
Take some of the ideas of the art world package them
together with music and see what happens.

And Mr P-Orridge is still happily making art with his
recent show in London (not that exciting I have to
admit) and still doing collages. 

Dave B

 --- Louisa Bannon <triskela at> wrote: > >I
have seen three boxsets and they all had a
> somewhat different content. I
> >did not have the newsletter, but got extra foto's
> and collages instead( all
> >different). I personally think that it's a joke of
> TG. Imagine all these 
> >fans that
> >are discussing their suppossedly incomplete boxset
> when it's the music that
> >counts and not the extras!
> Well, let's examine the joke fully then.
> If it was so beside the point, why have you even
> bothered to look at three 
> boxes worth of the goods? See, all I want is to see
> what else is out there 
> too - just as you have. Further, the claim is not
> that my boxed set is 
> incomplete, but that there are obviously more
> collages and possibly more TG 
> images to see, that's all. Also I am not totally
> convinced that the imagery 
> used by TG is totally beside the point. Collage art
> was supposedly a big 
> early interest of Coum's. They also make much of
> using traditional "rock 
> techniques" to subvert that same tradition. Peter
> was part of Hipgnosis -- 
> an organization dedicated to packaging primarily
> rock albums.
> So don't be sure sure that images mean absolutely
> nothing.
> For example, last night I was thinking about the
> packaging of the box (since 
> I had just recieved it in the mail) -- it bears a
> striking resemblence to 
> the original release of Joy Division's "Still." Is
> that entirely an 
> accident? Genesis has mentioned a particular
> affinity with Ian Curtis 
> before. Plus it plays against/into "rock"
> iconography rather nicely too.
> I'm always perfectly happy to listen to or discuss
> the "music." I've been 
> ripping my copy of TG24 to MP3s since last night for
> the ultimate in 
> convenience for just such purposes. But if the music
> is all that matters, 
> then there is no point in this list because it's all
> talk and your 
> participation in it counters your own argument. Or
> are you above it all 
> somehow in a way that the rest of us can't
> understand? Or are you just 
> another victim of the joke?
> For myself - if TG made it, I'd like to see it.
> Is that attitude truly surprising? Isn't this a TG
> discussion list? Are we 
> not of like minds and therefore here to talk about
> TG stuff?
> I guess I could go off and talk about "Baywatch," or
> some other crap, with 
> my immediate neighbors...bjt I'd rather be here
> discussing the "big TG con" 
> with you. Call me crazy.
> -- Triskela
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