[Grief] Re: Grief Digest, Vol 21, Issue 8

Livewire Confusion livewireconfusion at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 23 22:18:50 EDT 2004


Triskela, Jesus Christ! Don't you think I HAVE TRIED to buy it?

It IS out of stock at Mute and at Forced Exposure.  I know this because I 
tried to order it two weeks ago, and got an e-mail about two days ago from 
Forced Exposure saying "sorry, just ran out".

For Christ's sake are we now judging our fan devotion in terms of what spend 
in TG merchandise? Are you a bit obsessed and missing the point?

In fact there probably has never been a band more devoted to the principals 
of discordia, ever. I am sorry if me wanting someone (NOT YOU) to burn me 
copy of TG NOW because it is not available anymore is a problem for you.

If you'd like to play the of game of who spent what; I have spent over 
$1000.00 on a concert I HAVEN'T FUCKING EVEN SEEN YET, for TG so, FUCK OFF!

HOWEVER...

If any of you non-weird people out there in net land would like to do me 
favor and burn me a copy I will pay you via paypal or by whatever means you 
like. Thanks!

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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 6:32 AM
Subject: Grief Digest, Vol 21, Issue 8


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>   1. yes, yes, more important matters! (Livewire Confusion)
>   2. RE: Antw: [Grief] TG NOW, when??? (Louisa Bannon)
>   3. Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced! (Livewire Confusion)
>   4. RE: yes, yes, more important matters! (Louisa Bannon)
>   5. RE: yes, yes, more important matters! (Louisa Bannon)
>   6. Re: Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced! (Jeff Tomlinson)
>   7. RE: TG books (was (yes, yes, more important matters!)) (random99)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:03:43 +0100
> From: "Livewire Confusion" <livewireconfusion at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Grief] yes, yes, more important matters!
> To: <grief at hollyfeld.org>
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> Yes, I agree we do need to get on to more important topics.
>
> Such as, who's gonna burn me a copy of TGNOW?
>
> This is a very important matter!
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> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:05:52 +0000
> From: "Louisa Bannon" <triskela at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Antw: [Grief] TG NOW, when???
> To: grief at hollyfeld.org
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> Hey:
>
> I don't know where the original poster is located (missed that message I
> guess), but in the states I bought mine at:
>
> http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/throbbing.gristle.html
>
> It ended up being something like $21-22 USD (I think) with shipping. Even 
> to
> Europe the exchange rate should be advantageous, and they are obviously
> still listing it as available.
>
> I was very pleased with this release, it is full length - clocking in at
> approx. 45 minutes. I definitely recommend it. It's pretty amazing 
> overall.
>
> - Triskela
>
>>From: RWKolk at cs.com
>>Well considering there were only about a 1000 copies, you are to late I am
>>afraid. Don't worry though. In a couple of months  they will turn up on
>>GEMM or
>>Ebay for a "reasonable" price...........
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> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:12:10 +0100
> From: "Livewire Confusion" <livewireconfusion at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
> To: <grief at hollyfeld.org>
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> Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
>
> Announced by whom, you ask? Me, of course!
>
> I got these tour dates from a member of the RE~TG MSN group who found the 
> link.
>
> European Tour Dates:
>
> Sat 18.09.04, Underground, Cologne, Germany. (350)
> Sun 19.09.04, Patronaat, Haarlem, The Netherlands. (520)
> Mon 20.09.04, Hafenklang Hamburg, Germany. (250)
> Tue 21.09.04, Vega, Copenhagen, Denmark. (450).
> Wed 22.09.04, John Dee, Oslo, Norway. (400)
> Thu 23.09.04, OFF
> Fri 24.09.04, Volsbuehne, Berlin, Germany (700)
> Sat 25.09.04, St. John's Church, Gdansk, Poland. (1,200)
> Sun 26.09.04, Proxima, Warsaw, Poland. (900)
> Mon 27.09.04, OFF
> Tue 28.09.04, ????, Dresden/ Munich / Frankfurt, Germany.
> Wed 29.09.04, Abaton, Prague, Czech Republic. (600)
> Thu 30.09.04, Monastery, Vienna, Austria. (350)
> Fri 01.10.04, Mocvara, Zagreb, Croatia. (450)
> Sat 02.10.04, Ministry, Firenze, Italy. (1,000)
> Sun 03.10.04, OFF
> Mon 04.10.04, Bad Bonn, Duedingen, Switzerland. (200)
> Tue 05.10.04, La Maroquinerie, Paris, France. (400)
> Wed 06.10.04, CC Luchtbal, Antwerp, Belgium. (400/1,000)
> Thu 07.10.04, OFF
> Fri 08.10.04, Sa Bandeira, Porto, Portugal. (1,200)
> Sat 09.10.04, The Forum, London, UK. (2,110)
> Sun 10.10.04, TNT Club, Athens, Greece
> Mon 11.10.04, off-travel
> Tue 12.10.04, Moscow, Russia
> Wed 13.10.04, St. Petersburg, Russia
>
>
> U.S.A. Tour Dates:
>
> Tue 11/2/04, Los Angeles, CA, Knitting Factory
> Wed 11/3/04, San Francisco, CA, DNA Lounge
> Fri, 11/5/04, Portland, OR, Sabala's
> Sat 11/6/04, Seattle, WA, Chop Suey
>
> Don't believe me? Check out Leafy Green Booking's website 
> http://www.leafygreen.com/ click on "tour dates" scroll down 
> alphabetically, and POOF, it appears on your right hand side.
>
> See you in London.
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> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:42:35 +0000
> From: "Louisa Bannon" <triskela at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Grief] yes, yes, more important matters!
> To: grief at hollyfeld.org
> Message-ID: <BAY17-F16DwJPvxsZpw00079154 at hotmail.com>
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> Hey:
>
> I'm not obsessed with this issue or anything, but you should really try to
> buy this first. Well, unless there really is proof it is unavailable. Then
> I'd probably feel differently about it. I realize it's supposed to be a
> limited edition, but I also think that's a stupid idea when it comes to
> music. I Mean, I did already rip it to my music server as MP3s, so there's
> at least one more copy out there than there was before...!
>
> I think my main point here is that TG is not exactly in the stadium rocker
> category and we should try to support them in the way they have chosen to 
> be
> supported. I don't know this of a fact, but Mute Bank seems fairly small
> scale.
>
> - Triskela
>
>>From: "Livewire Confusion" <livewireconfusion at hotmail.com>
>>Yes, I agree we do need to get on to more important topics.
>>Such as, who's gonna burn me a copy of TGNOW?
>>This is a very important matter!
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> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:10:53 +0000
> From: "Louisa Bannon" <triskela at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Grief] yes, yes, more important matters!
> To: grief at hollyfeld.org
> Message-ID: <BAY17-F19kT4XX7Ai5q0007941d at hotmail.com>
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> Sorry Folks!
>
> I should have been clearer - all I meant was that I have a server 
> networked
> within my home that now has the ripped MP3s. I do not share this with the
> outside world. I am not giving away TG's music without TG being 
> compensated.
>
> I'm still working on the "Mission Terminated" Red Ronnie material - but 
> that
> is long out of print and no one has indicated any interest in republishing
> it for profit, so basically it seems different. With 20-25 years since 
> it's
> original release, it doesn't quite feel like theft any longer. More like
> archiving the past for the use of others.
>
> "TG Now" is a very current release, and those that can should support the
> band by paying for it. In just this last year I have purchased 2 TG 
> related
> books, 24, TG+, TG Now, and some old CDs. Most of what I bought was brand
> spanking new and should put some dollars into the band's collective 
> pocket.
> I consider that a good thing.
>
> - Triskela
>
>>From: "Louisa Bannon" <triskela at hotmail.com>
>>I Mean, I did already rip it to my music server as MP3s, so there's at
>>least one more copy out there than there was before...!
>
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> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:55:04 -0400
> From: "Jeff Tomlinson" <brak109 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
> To: <grief at hollyfeld.org>
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>
> no toronto date? this sucks. i bet if they came to toronto it would be in 
> some place that would only allow people over the age of 19 anyways. 
> although, i hope if they decide to  come to toronto in the near future 
> they consider the under 19's and make the show all ages.
>
> anyone whos seen ptv, have the shows ever been all ages?
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Livewire Confusion
>  To: grief at hollyfeld.org
>  Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:12 PM
>  Subject: [Grief] Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
>
>
>  Psychic TV Tour Dates Announced!
>
>  Announced by whom, you ask? Me, of course!
>
>  I got these tour dates from a member of the RE~TG MSN group who found the 
> link.
>
>  European Tour Dates:
>
>  Sat 18.09.04, Underground, Cologne, Germany. (350)
>  Sun 19.09.04, Patronaat, Haarlem, The Netherlands. (520)
>  Mon 20.09.04, Hafenklang Hamburg, Germany. (250)
>  Tue 21.09.04, Vega, Copenhagen, Denmark. (450).
>  Wed 22.09.04, John Dee, Oslo, Norway. (400)
>  Thu 23.09.04, OFF
>  Fri 24.09.04, Volsbuehne, Berlin, Germany (700)
>  Sat 25.09.04, St. John's Church, Gdansk, Poland. (1,200)
>  Sun 26.09.04, Proxima, Warsaw, Poland. (900)
>  Mon 27.09.04, OFF
>  Tue 28.09.04, ????, Dresden/ Munich / Frankfurt, Germany.
>  Wed 29.09.04, Abaton, Prague, Czech Republic. (600)
>  Thu 30.09.04, Monastery, Vienna, Austria. (350)
>  Fri 01.10.04, Mocvara, Zagreb, Croatia. (450)
>  Sat 02.10.04, Ministry, Firenze, Italy. (1,000)
>  Sun 03.10.04, OFF
>  Mon 04.10.04, Bad Bonn, Duedingen, Switzerland. (200)
>  Tue 05.10.04, La Maroquinerie, Paris, France. (400)
>  Wed 06.10.04, CC Luchtbal, Antwerp, Belgium. (400/1,000)
>  Thu 07.10.04, OFF
>  Fri 08.10.04, Sa Bandeira, Porto, Portugal. (1,200)
>  Sat 09.10.04, The Forum, London, UK. (2,110)
>  Sun 10.10.04, TNT Club, Athens, Greece
>  Mon 11.10.04, off-travel
>  Tue 12.10.04, Moscow, Russia
>  Wed 13.10.04, St. Petersburg, Russia
>
>
>  U.S.A. Tour Dates:
>
>  Tue 11/2/04, Los Angeles, CA, Knitting Factory
>  Wed 11/3/04, San Francisco, CA, DNA Lounge
>  Fri, 11/5/04, Portland, OR, Sabala's
>  Sat 11/6/04, Seattle, WA, Chop Suey
>
>  Don't believe me? Check out Leafy Green Booking's website 
> http://www.leafygreen.com/ click on "tour dates" scroll down 
> alphabetically, and POOF, it appears on your right hand side.
>
>  See you in London.
>
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> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 06:37:29 +0100
> From: "random99" <random99 at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: RE: [Grief] TG books (was (yes, yes, more important
> matters!))
> To: <grief at hollyfeld.org>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: grief-bounces at hollyfeld.org [mailto:grief-bounces at hollyfeld.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Louisa Bannon
>> Sent: 22 August 2004 21:11
>> To: grief at hollyfeld.org
>> Subject: RE: [Grief] yes, yes, more important matters!
>>
>> "TG Now" is a very current release, and those that can should support the
>> band by paying for it. In just this last year I have purchased 2 TG
> related
>> books, 24, TG+, TG Now, and some old CDs. Most of what I bought was brand
>> spanking new and should put some dollars into the band's collective
> pocket.
>> I consider that a good thing.
>>
>> - Triskela
>
> What were the 2 TG related books? I'm only aware of Wreckers of
> Civilisation?
>
>
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