Path: Supernews70!Supernews73!supernews.com!WCG!news2.randori.com!news.he.net!newsfeed.wli.net!204.127.161.4!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm From: tjn Newsgroups: alt.zen Subject: Re: Zen and Tao are the same damn thing!! Date: 26 Aug 1998 20:11:27 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 26 Message-ID: <35E469B8.7A64DC2F@worldnet.att.net> References: <35D59BDB.6CE2@pathcom.com> <35D6060E.3787@idt.net> <35D6062A.7765@pathcom.com> <35D86E7C.1C4D@idt.net> <35d8996d.1605369@news.pipeline.com> <6rc267$455$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35d99cb0.886833@news.pipeline.com> <35DA657B.4358@pathcom.com> <35DAA537.5845@pathcom.com> <6repd1$9lv@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <35DB133F.31EC@pathcom.com> <35DB99E6.B50BFD84@worldnet.att.net> <35DC5326.359E@idt.net> <35DC910E.5ACF41F8@worldnet.att.net> <6rih2g$8f3@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <35DD678A.2F218155@worldnet att.net> <6rkal9$tb8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35DE8FF5.3CC4@idt.net> <35dfb171.7906442@news.pipeline.com> <35E1906C.5F3@idt.net> <6rs6en$8bo@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <35E239D5.445A@idt.net> <6rtetb$rfe@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> <35E2EDDE.3623@idt.net> <6ruqdp$22a@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <35E39113.7189@idt.net> <35E41456.5B3D043F@worldnet.att.net> <6s1bmk$mnf@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: ryugin@worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.75.164.13 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-WorldNet (Win95; I) Xref: Supernews70 alt.zen:111447 Ned Ludd wrote: > > In <35E41456.5B3D043F@worldnet.att.net> tjn > writes: > > > > Buddhist rebirth accounts are rather different from reincarnation. > > after all in reincarnation there is a soul that leaves one dying > > body and finds a new body. in rebirth there is no soul just a more > > or less impersonal action of causation. > > the extent to which Buddhism speaks of rebirth and reincarnation > > is likely a concession to popular religion and folk belief in south > > asia, it is not important in the heart of Buddhism which is about > > awakening to now and leaving useless speculations behind. > > So, how many "concessions to popular religion and folk belief" > did Buddhism make in its evolution into a popular religion? many. > Was meditation a "concession to popular religion and folk belief" > that was current in India at the time of Buddha? setting aside the problems with the word meditation... non meditation is a "concession to popular religion and folk belief". after all the Buddha sat before and after. without conceding anything even after attaining enlightenment he sat.