Path: Supernews69!usenet65.supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!feeder.chicago.cic.net!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!jump.net!news From: Randall Raemon Newsgroups: alt.fan.surak Subject: AFS: Zen and the art of Vulcan(ism) Date: 18 Jun 1997 21:34:17 GMT Organization: Jump Point Communications, Inc. Lines: 55 Distribution: world Message-ID: <199706181705.MAA06966@tuvela.shikahr.com.inter.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.8.39.130 X-Forward-From: vulcan-l-request@shikahr.com.inter.net X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:05:54 -0500 Xref: Supernews69 alt.fan.surak:6771 ------- Forwarded Message Article: 162 of alt.fan.surak ~From: marketa (Marketa Zvelebil) ~Subject: Zen and the art of Vulcan(ism) Message-ID: <1994Mar30.100017.45714@ucl.ac.uk> ~Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 10:00:17 GMT Well here are a few more ideas on the Zen and Vulcan phylosophies... In Zen initial training for a monk inludes training of WILL and INTELLECT, complemented by a simple diet, physical work for recreation. Punctuality, conscientiousness, SELF-CONTROL, and physical discomfort are demandes as part of trainig. Great value is set on Moral character, patience, and observence of ethical order. Spiritual training requires the pupil to percieve everything that IS, in all its sensuous fullness, including displeasing matter - total imersion of perception is demanded. Now Spock does this as part of his meditation in "Dwelllers in the Crucible" by M.W.Bonanno:- 'The sufferings of the universe passed accross his viewscren and Spock reached out for them and embraced them, reached into them and took them into himself, became one with them.' While in the "Method of Zen" by E.Herrigel, it says;- Again and again you have to immerse yourself in the contents of perception to learn to raise above it, to apprehend and accept what you are looking at as if from inside, to look through it and grasp the essence. Also a Zen-priest (a Vulcan?) should be totally impartial observer of life, he should neither hate or love but that does not mean become indefferent, rather compassionate. Freedom in Zen means: Remaining INDEPENDENT, UNCONSUMED by emotions such as joy, suffering, love and hate, although you need to accept them. While SURAK said (D.Durant Spock's World):- ' Cast out all emotions that spreads entropy, whether love or hate, by using reason to ACCEPT them and move past them.' And obviously there is the respect for all life - but thats found in many if not all phylosophies and religions. I think that enough of me garbeling about Zen and the art of becoming a Vulcan. Wishing a good easter, passover etc to all. Cheers Marketa ------- End of Forwarded Message ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the vulcan-l list, send an email message of "unsubscribe vulcan-l" to majordomo@shikahr.com.inter.net