Path: shell.portal.com!shell.portal.com!not-for-mail From: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) Newsgroups: alt.zen,alt.religion,talk.religion.buddhism,talk.religion.misc,alt.magick.tyagi Subject: GLaCorte: Zazen re: Kapleau Followup-To: alt.philosophy.zen,alt.zen,alt.religion,talk.religion.buddhism,talk.religion.misc,alt.magick.tyagi Date: 11 Jun 1996 10:06:03 -0700 Organization: Portal Communications (shell) Lines: 38 Sender: tyagi@shell.portal.com Message-ID: <4pk91r$ekp@jobe.shell.portal.com> References: <4p6j5o$hrd@apache.dtcc.edu> Reply-To: l23@hopi.dtcc.edu (GERALD J. LA CORTE) NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com Xref: shell.portal.com alt.zen:34019 alt.religion:2318 talk.religion.buddhism:21554 talk.religion.misc:223549 alt.magick.tyagi:8431 [from alt.philosophy.zen: l23@hopi.dtcc.edu (GERALD J. LA CORTE)] Greetings all, I practice meditational yoga and have been inquiring into various forms of meditation and pre-meditational practice. Naturally, one of my first stops was zazen. I've been reading Kapleau's book _The Three Pillars of Zen_ and have two questions. Let me give some background first, before I pose my questions. There is something called raja-yoga, which is foundational for most of the various types of meditation and pre-meditational practice. Its made of eight steps: yama (ethics), niyama (practices), asana (postures), pranayama (meditation upon the breath), pratyahara (blanking the mind), dharana (focus of thought), dhyana ("real" meditation), and samadhi (essentially advanced meditation). Zazen appears to focus upon pranayama and pratyahara. On the other side of the scale, enlightenment appears to occur all to often - Kapleau must be refering to dhyana or samadhi in those cases. On the other hand, he mentions kensho and satori quite a bit. But I'm uncertain as to where and how they fit in to the raja-yoga picture. Could you help me? From a previous thread, I gathered that satori may be equivalent to dhyana. There are eight degrees or levels of samadhi, and dhyana may be views as "zero-degre samadhi". Dharana, as mentioned is focus of thought. For example upon "Mu", or koan, or mantra, or mental image of a deity, or symbol of a deity. Raja-yoga was codified by an Indian scholar and avatar named Pantanjali, who is roughly equal to or greater than Dogen, so I'm certain kensho and satori fit in somewhere. Thank-you and bests, Jay