From tyagi@bjt.net Thu Dec 26 19:13:55 1996 Return-Path: tyagi@bjt.net Received: from kudonet.com (kudonet.com [165.227.52.1]) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12884 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:13:52 -0500 Received: from kudo20.kudonet.com by kudonet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA29136; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:58:59 -0800 Received: by kudo20.kudonet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA04708; Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:50:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:50:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199612262250.OAA04708@kudo20.kudonet.com> To: tyagi@hollyfeld.org Subject: Wicca/9612.mmchist.r From: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) Reply-To: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) X-Status: Status: O >From: raven@solaria.sol.net (Raven (J. Singleton)) >Newsgroups: soc.religion.paganism,alt.magick.tyagi,talk.religion.misc,alt.mythology,alt.religion.wicca,alt.pagan,talk.religion.newage >Subject: Re: ABranchfeather: Reality of Gods (was William Blake's >Followup-To: soc.religion.paganism,alt.magick.tyagi,talk.religion.misc,alt.mythology,alt.religion.wicca,alt.pagan,talk.religion.newage >Date: 25 Dec 1996 09:39:40 -0600 >Organization: Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI >Lines: 35 >Sender: srpbot@news.brewich.com >Approved: SRP Approval Key >Message-ID: <851524790.185656@smyrno.sol.net> >References: <851338326.298912@smyrno.sol.net> >NNTP-Posting-Host: brewich.com >X-SRP-Homepage: http://www.brewich.com/org/srp/index.html >X-SRP-Info-1: Send submissions to srpbot@brewich.com >X-SRP-Info-2: Send technical complaints to srp-admin@brewich.com >X-SRP-Info-3: Send complaints about policy to srp-modkin@brewich.com >X-Robomod-Written-By: ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) >X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] >Cache-Post-Path: smyrno.sol.net!unknown@solaria.sol.net >X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP soc.religion.paganism > iQBVAwUBMsFKtFzemumcYbkZAQEmfgH/Yos1B44mQuUbjXDvjrQ3VIpN5PgU9H6E > RuUf5XQE6ZRXVaBrOqU/449cPusQupBsJ70QPbtX8+ChmUr54di/Wg== > =jg9t >Xref: kudonet.com soc.religion.paganism:4115 alt.magick.tyagi:8574 talk.religion.misc:221900 alt.mythology:26808 alt.religion.wicca:34781 alt.pagan:160391 talk.religion.newage:53429 Ashley Branchfeather (AshleyB@halcyon.com) wrote: | Raven (J. Singleton) wrote: | > Ashley Branchfeather (AshleyB@halcyon.com) wrote: | > | > | There are quite a few triple Goddesses, but I defy you to find any | > | reference of a Maiden, Mother & Crone triad before this century. | > | > Hecate (a triple goddess in her own right) helping Demeter search for | > Kore / Persephone, a story repeatedly enacted in Eleusinian rituals. | > Will that do? | | That depends on your source for what went on at Eleusis. I thought no-one | knew... As far as I know, there's no *complete* script extant, but a lot of separate details have survived. The computer I'm using is not where my books are, but I believe Encyclopedia Britannica has a hefty article on the Eleusinian Mysteries. I also have a book tucked away somewhere, titled (I think) THE RITES OF ELEUSIS, which collects just about every scrap of classical text referring to the subject and tries to put it together. I'll post author etc. here when I (a) find the book and (b) get back online. By the way, notice that Hecate, Demeter, and Persephone are each, in their own ways, "Queen of Death": Hecate in her role as mistress of the underworld directs the dead to their various destinations, Demeter as "Black Demeter" (her winter side) represents death and decay in this world just as her summer side represents the regrowth of the planted seeds, and Persephone is the co-ruler of the realm of Pluto -- Hades. Three persons in one divine Queenship.... Sure sounds like the Christian definition of Trinity, dunnit? -- raven | "I have seen the sun at midnight, slain the bull at his command, | Used the power of the crystal, felt the force direct my hand, @solaria | Thricefold served the silver lady, sailed upon the darkest sea, .sol.net | Counted corpses in the forest, chanted runes upon the tree"