Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.satanism Path: shell.portal.com!svc.portal.com!sdd.hp.com!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jyouril From: jyouril@netcom.com (John Youril) Subject: Re: Nietzsche Message-ID: Followup-To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.satanism Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <3if20h$e2u@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> <3it1gv$kp@jobe.shell.portal.com> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 09:43:33 GMT Lines: 41 Sender: jyouril@netcom17.netcom.com Xref: shell.portal.com alt.magick.tyagi:2356 alt.satanism:15427 mordred (nagasiva@yronwode.com) wrote: : [from alt.philosophy.zen: kennedy@quark.phys.ufl.edu (Dallas Kennedy)] : Here are some references for studying Nietzsche: Kaufmann's _Nietzsche: : Philosopher, Psychologist, Antichrist_, 4th ed., and his introductions/ : translations. I would strongly recommend staying away from the Heideggerian/ : postmodernist school of Nietzsche interpretation, IMHO. Nietzsche influenced : many 20th century writers and thinkers, but these are scattered all over. : Try, e.g., Camus' _Notebooks_ or the writings of Thomas Mann. : The main answers to your questions can be found in _Beyond Good and Evil_ and, : with some caveats, in _The Will to Power_. Nietzsche was not systematic : and not always consistent, so you have to look at a full train of thought to : see "what Nietzsche said". There are also published collections of his : notebooks, correspondence, and others' reminiscences. There are also : biographies: Brandes, Halevy, Hollingdale, Hayman. There are also a number : of recent books on Nietzsche and women: Patton (ed.), Burgard (ed.), and Krell. The idea that Nietzsche was a non-systematic/anti-systematic thinker is central to the particular (and influencial) interpretation of Nietzsche that Kaufmann has advanced. It also has the pragmatic utility of simplifying Kaufmann's apology, since "non-conforming" passages can be dismissed or given an interpretation which has no textual foundation on the basis of a wholly speculative attribution of context. This particular portion of Kaufmann's thesis is not particularly strong, and his defense of it is frequently recursive. Kaufmann's N:P/P/A is a masterpiece - but it is neither the last word nor the only word on Nietzsche. Given that Kaufmann's interpretation dominates the American view of Nietzschian thought, it is particularly useful to look at the other (especially the "harder") schools of interpretation. Jaspers' _Nietzsche_ is an excellent volume to read in conjunction with Kaufmann. Certainly Nietzsche influenced Camus -- but the most important aspect of that influence was Camus' critique of Nietzshe -- specifically, his examination of the logical implications of Nietzshe's absolute affirmation of life (_The Rebel_). Regards, John Youril