Path: newscene.newscene.com!novia!feeder.qis.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feed1.tiac.net!posterchild2!hollyfeld.org!occult-owner From: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan.magick,alt.occult Subject: (O) Gematria and Other Systems of Numerology Date: 13 Dec 1998 18:37:20 -0500 Organization: Hollyfeld Information Systems Lines: 55 Sender: mail@www.hollyfeld.org Approved: alt-magick,alt-magick-tyagi,alt-pagan-magick,alt-occult@hollyfeld.org Message-ID: <199812132321.PAA19308@shell.accesscom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: www.hollyfeld.org Xref: newscene.newscene.com alt.magick:196557 alt.magick.tyagi:19561 alt.pagan.magick:17519 alt.occult:206 49981213 IIIom a correspondent writes: # I've been trying to get a firm hold on the gematria system of # qabalah. So many books have left me more confused than # enlightened, I was wondering if you could recommend one or two? the numerology of Kabbalah appears to be somewhat diverse with regard to its practice and application. there are several modes of relating the Hebrew letters (22) to numerical values (10), even though there is an historical identification between the counting numbers and the aleph-beth (aleph = 1; beth = 2; etc.). Nigel Pennick wrote a lovely little text called _Magical Alphabets_ which contains quite a bit of data on the relationship between letters and numerical values, inclusive of several systems to use. often the system is named by virtue of the linguistic constructions made when the whole of the alphabet is laid out with their assigned values (e.g. AIQ BEKR, or whatever it was called, which sets up equal rows and assigns values to those in the proper columns). another Hebrew system is called 'Notariqon', though as my library is in shambles I'm afraid I can't detail the differences at present. these (Gematria, Aiq bekr, Notariqon) are merely systems of association between letters and numbers such that words can be compared in value and investigated with respect to the words that add up to the same (or similar) numbers. like a tarot spread, what is made of this comparison depends upon the interpretation of the viewer/occultist. those with similar value are often presumed to have 'esoteric' connections on the basis that inasmuch as the divine constructs the cosmos like a book, those items with common qualities may be discovered through deciphering the code of the Great Geometer. I consider all types of numerology to be styles of *divination*, and do not invest them with the truth-source value that so many occultists have seen fit to assign (e.g. Crowley at times). qabalah is much more than a concise and self-integral composite, but is instead a grand confluence of ideas from different authors that are at variance as often as they are in conformity. the exploration of new means of comparing and correlating letters and numbers is a science of subtle skill and imaginative incentive. may we see more and more ways of going about this. blessed beast! ========================================================================= nagasiva -- nagasiva@yronwode.com; http://www.hollyfeld.org/~tyagi/ cc replies to me if this was read in Usenet. replies may be posted. ____________...oooOOO---occult@hollyfeld.org---OOOooo..._____________ To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe" to occult-request@hollyfeld.org To unsubscribe your@email.com send "unsubscribe your@email.com" http://www.hollyfeld.org/heaven/elists/occult.phtml