Path: shell.portal.com!svc.portal.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!demon!gary.cursci.co.uk From: Kullervo Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan,alt.satanism Subject: Blood Sacrifice (WasRe: CHLow: Dark/Light Neopaganism (Was Re: Dark roygbiv Light) Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 15:28:38 GMT Lines: 60 Message-ID: <821201318.18665@gary.cursci.co.uk> References: <81430@toad.com> <4clnpv$if6@uucp.intac.com> <820925706snz@jamr4.demon.co.uk> <4cnaug$49m@News1.mcs.net> <4cngqq$qsh@uucp.intac.com> <4cst35$53j@News1.mcs.net> <821185817.11486@gary.cursci.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: gary.cursci.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gary.cursci.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Xref: shell.portal.com alt.magick.tyagi:6144 alt.pagan:140544 alt.satanism:32181 Kullervo wrote: >deanm@mcs.com (Dean) wrote: >> >>Please show me any. ANY cultural evidence that shows that blood is a >>superior gift than a personal item. > >I've been following this discussion with great interest. Now, I don't >for a minute claim to know much about this, but what about South American >culture - the blood sacrifice to the Sun god? > >Kullervo. Okay, I've just (3.11 pm GMT) returned from the Mexican gallery of the British Museum where I took some notes to do with this subject. Bear in mind that all of this is based on the displays there and that I don't claim any personal knowledge. Exhibit 1: a "cuauhxicalli" - a large urn-like object adorned with some stylised carvings that the placard says represent human hearts. Exhibit 2: a wooden knife with... a chalcedony stone blade - Mixtec-Aztec, made 1400x1521 CE. Part of the placard reads "The knife was used for human sacrifice made in the belief that blood offerings kept the sun on its course". Exhibit 3: a Mayan carved display made 770 CE - this portrays, according to the accompanying placard, Bird Jaguar and one of his wives, Lady Balan-Ix, blood-letting. Exhibit 4: at least one more Mayan carved display made 770 CE - portraying blood-letting. Exhibit 5: a Mayan carved display made about 725 CE - also portraying blood-letting. Exhibit 6: a Mayan carved display made 755x770 CE - eight days after the main event portrayed (another incident from the life of Bird Jaguar), Bird Jaguar's heir Shield Jaguar II was born and his birth was followed by ritual blood-letting. Exhibit 7: a Mayan carved display made 28 October 709 CE (Mayan date: 9.13.17.15.12 5 eb 15 mac) - In this Lord Shield Jaguar holds a blood-letting ritual with his main wife, Lady Xoc. Exhibit 8: a shell pendant made 900x1450 CE, Huaxtec - this portrays decapitation. An earth deity drinks the resultant blood. Exhibit 9: a description of a ball game after which a decapitation ritual could take place. I hope this is of some interest and I'd be interested to hear your comments. Best, Kullervo.