Path: Supernews69!kudonet.com!not-for-mail From: nagasiva@yronwode.com (n'yrl'thot'p) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.necronomicon,alt.necromicon,alt.mythology,alt.gothic,alt.horror.cthulhu Subject: Re: The Necronomicon Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:04:07 -0700 Organization: KudoNet On-Line Services Lines: 84 Sender: tyagi@bjt.net Message-ID: <5q315n$3pp@kudo20.kudonet.com> References: <33985701.1F10@acad.nwmissouri.edu> <5neu4n$k53$1@shell5.ba.best.com> <5nk4v3$agk$1@shell5.ba.best.com> <5o73g6$39m@kudo20.kudonet.com> <33b9e722.2545160@snews.zippo.com> <199707030635.XAA22970@kudo20.kudonet.com> <33c5a207.1911407@206.55.131.1> Reply-To: nagasiva@yronwode.com (n'yrl'thot'p) NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.227.52.9 X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) Xref: Supernews69 alt.magick.tyagi:13542 alt.necronomicon:3052 alt.necromicon:497 alt.mythology:39728 alt.gothic:316640 alt.horror.cthulhu:30714 49970709 aa2 Hail Satan! in response to kingsword post of lengthy declamation of the existence of the Necronomicon, I posted: #>back at ya!! #>------------ [_Liber Grimoiris..._ omitted, see previous post or contact me for URL.] kingsword@greenheart.com (kingsword): #...what this all comes down to is your (all other goths) #have a great need for a really "Evil" book. I'm a goth? well, I've been called the pre-eminent goth, but I'm unsure this is true. the Evul Book is _The Book of the Law_, didn't you know? it contains that which we ought not know. _The Necronomicon_ is a Black Book. #There isn't one it is impossible to prove a negative. you're arguing a losing cause. #because people just don't want to admit that they have a dark side hopefully you see the futility of this logic: that people may not wish to see that they have a dark side (whatever this may mean) does not in any way preclude the existence of the Necronomicon or any other Black Book of which we may speak. #-- except in some justified way -- so we have Ninja apologists (been #there-done that). I have no idea how this applies, except perhaps that the Ninja and the art of Ninjutsu were traditionally covert. #Yezidi Devil Worshippers who don't and never did. in a strict sense of 'the Devil' (as JBRussell), I would agree, though there is a sense in which the Yezidis have co-opted the Devil toward an integrated whole. #Tibetan Bon-Pos who are me-too Buddhists doing it backwards I don't know what this means. please explain. #and Nazis who were just following orders. this does appear to relate to justification, but has little to do with the Necronomicon from what I can tell. #Perhaps the greatest evil in our race is its capacity #to justify any atrocity in the Name of God or The Betterment #of Mankind. now this is PRECISELY NOT WHAT THE NECRONOMICON IS. that Black Tome does not justify itself and those who pretend to justify it simply don't know what It is or who They are. #I think Crowley's Liber Al is as close as you are going to get to #what you are looking for. nah, it doesn't open the Gates of Hell, it appeals to the Star Goddess, the Inner Star, and the Star Warrior. these are all Old Aeon Heroes, not antagonistic archons of KaOs. read this essay next and you'll see what I mean: http://www.hollyfeld.org/heaven/Avidyana/Shaitan/kathulumgk.h n'yrl'thot'p -- (emailed replies may be posted) ------- join the AMT syncretism!!! see http://www.abyss.com/tokus ---------- call: 408/2-666-SLUG!! "sa avidya ya vimuktaye" -- "that which liberates is ignorance"