From tyagi@bjt.net Wed Dec 18 05:45:46 1996 Return-Path: tyagi@bjt.net Received: from kudonet.com (kudonet.com [165.227.52.1]) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23281 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 05:45:43 -0500 Received: by kudonet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA21864; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:35:07 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:35:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199612180935.BAA21864@kudonet.com> To: tyagi@hollyfeld.org Subject: Mythology/9612.houris-.fh From: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) Reply-To: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) Status: O >Path: kudonet.com!news.scruz.net!legba.synergy.net!news.inetnebr.com!crcnews.unl.edu!news.mid.net!mr.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news1.best.com!nntp1.best.com!shellx.best.com!not-for-mail >From: fhaddad@unix.asb.com (Fouad Haddad) >Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam >Subject: Re: Beautiful Virgins (Houris) >Date: 16 Dec 1996 09:32:31 -0800 >Organization: Naqshbandi-Haqqani Foundation >Lines: 35 >Sender: ariel@best.com >Approved: ariel@best.com >Message-ID: <59413f$kqb@shellx.best.com> >References: <591vht$psi@shellx.best.com> >NNTP-Posting-Host: shellx.best.com >Status: RO >Moderator: ariel@best.com (Catherine Hampton) In article <591vht$psi@shellx.best.com> Paul Boers writes in part: >78:32 hadai'q (gardens) wa a'naban (and grapevins) >78:33 wa kawaa'ib (and creatures with full, swelling breasts) atraban >(of the same age) not full but "budding." ... >I am eager to read an answer from AdbelraHman Lomax, Fouad Haddad or >anyone else. Regards, Paul. I have said from the beginning that the Hur al-`ayn are mentioned clearly as female in the holy Qur'an. I consider the evidence to that effect explicit, and even more so in the hadith, while `Abd al-Rahman Lomax has differed. Since our last exchange on the topic I have come accross this passage in one of the books of transcribed talks of my grand-shaykh, Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani, speaking of his master Shaykh `Abd Allah al-Daghistani: Our Grandshaykh was saying: "If a man looks upon one of the ladies of Paradise (houris), he will be useless with the most beautiful girl in this world. So radiant are their beauties! "But, if a woman is a believer in this world, her beauty in the next world will be greater than that of those girls in Paradise. Women believers will be queens in Paradise; the houris will be their servants!" Blessings and Peace on the Prophet, his Family, and his Companions.