From tyagi@bjt.net Sun Dec 15 06:48:10 1996 Return-Path: tyagi@bjt.net Received: from kudonet.com (kudonet.com [165.227.52.1]) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA00627 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 06:48:08 -0500 Received: by kudonet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA16166; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 02:39:04 -0800 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 02:39:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199612151039.CAA16166@kudonet.com> To: tyagi@hollyfeld.org Subject: KaOs/9612.carroll.ty From: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) Reply-To: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) Status: O >From: tzimon@crl.com (Tzimon Yliaster) >Newsgroups: alt.magick >Subject: Re: ??? on Liber Chaos and chaos theory >Date: 8 Dec 1996 16:24:42 GMT >Organization: BBZ Broadcasting, Inc. >Lines: 22 >Message-ID: <58eq4a$qd6@nexp.crl.com> >References: >NNTP-Posting-Host: crl.com >X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] On Sat, 7 Dec 1996 23:36:44 -0600, Barbara stated: -} Of course I am asking questions about the underlying theory, and not the -} practise. I can just imagine how a conservative engineering type would -} answer my questions, psuedo science... The conservative engineering type would be right. Carroll largely picked and chose from a variety of ideas in physics, and especially quantum mechanics, in constructing his scientific view of magick. In some cases (as in his idea about retroactive enchanment), he borrows from one area while entirely ignoring others (in this case, monodirectionality of time) from the same source. It comes across, at times, as if he were a quantum physicist who used goetia to fill in the blanks in his theories. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Tzimon Yliaster + + Tools of CHAOS Maintainer + + http://www.crl.com/~tzimon + + tzimon@crl.com + + PO Box 26362 + + San Francisco, CA 94126 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++