Path: shell.portal.com!shell.portal.com!not-for-mail From: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) Newsgroups: alt.divination,alt.tarot,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.philosophy.taoism Subject: Re: Mah Jongg Divination Date: 27 Apr 1996 10:23:02 -0700 Organization: Portal Communications (shell) Lines: 46 Sender: tyagi@shell.portal.com Message-ID: <4ltl5m$86@jobe.shell.portal.com> References: <4kb04b$jlu@socrates.zensys.co.uk> <4krjnk$doq@jobe.shell.portal.com> <4l9ihp$3fo@ceres.cs.sfu.ca> Reply-To: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) NNTP-Posting-Host: jobe.shell.portal.com Xref: shell.portal.com alt.divination:7348 alt.tarot:6458 alt.magick.tyagi:7823 alt.magick:72285 alt.philosophy.taoism:3464 kaliyuga 49960427 jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews): |>49960413 | ^ Shouldn't this be a "5"? 4996th year (Western 1996) |>I have wondered when popular games would begin inspiring |>divination devices. | In fact, the Mah Jongg tiles have been used for divination |for centuries. The symbols on them come from ancient Chinese |systems of mystical knowledge, and they were used for obtaining |answers from the gods before they were used in games. This from |"The World Atlas of Divination", ed. John Matthews, Headline, 1994. Excellent! Thank you for bringing this to our attention. |The author of the Mah Jongg chapter (Derek Walters) gives |a brief description of the traditional divination system. Is it possible that, since it comes out of a single source, he is making it all up? I have *never* heard of Mah Jongg being used in this way and I'm surprised, given the popularity of I Ching, that many other systems would be used, especially of gaming tools. | Of course Tyagi already knew this, and was just trying |to throw us off with the comment above. :) False. |>I love the sound of the tiles clicking, tho. Very |>like bones in the wind. |Apparently it is called "the twittering of the sparrows" in Chinese. Folklorically significant. nagasiva@yronwode.com nagasiva