From tyagi@bjt.net Wed Jan 29 16:35:42 1997 Return-Path: tyagi@bjt.net Received: from kudonet.com (kudonet.com [165.227.52.1]) by bitsy.hollyfeld.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12712 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:35:36 -0500 Received: from kudo20.kudonet.com by kudonet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA22782; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:43:53 -0800 Received: by kudo20.kudonet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA16195; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:34:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199701292134.NAA16195@kudo20.kudonet.com> Subject: Christianity/mithras.egg To: tyagi@hollyfeld.org Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:34:49 -0800 (PST) From: nagasiva@yronwode.com (nagasiva) Orientation: House of Kaos, St. Joseph, Kali Fornika, US -- Kali Yuga X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O #The idea of Chrismas celebrated near the winter solstice is indeed of fairly #late provenance. Originally Christians celebrated the BAPTISM of Jesus on 6th #January. Later, for political/religious reasons this was changed to his birth, #it being deemed that his Baptism being symbolic of his rebirth it was one and #the same. In the Fourth century it was shifted back to 25th December, the #feast of the Birth of Mithras. This Persian and Anatolian "god" was really #more like an archangel in their religious tradition. Zoroaster (or #Zarathustra) was a great Persian prophet who probably lived in the 6th century #BC, around the time of Buddha and Pythagoras.(There are indeed traditions that #Pythagoras met Zoroaster after the former was taken captive to Babylon by #Cambyses the Persian king.Mithraism as such probably predates Zoroastrianism #by many centuries. The god Mithras was summoned as a witness to trial by fire #and was therefore, like ST, Michael, associated with justice. # Astrologically Mithras represents on the one hand the reborn sun at the #winter solstice and on the other the constellation of Orion. This can be most #clearly seen in the famous bull-slaying sculptures where Mithras (Orion) is #seen seizing Taurus. Attending are a dog (Canis Major) and two acolytes (the #Gemini). Thjere is very very much to this symbolism and some of its meaning #has indeed passed into Christianity. # The real birthdate of Jesus, I am convinced, is 29th July 7 BC. On this date #there was a very special arrangement of the stars and planets portending to #the birth of a king in both the Egyptian and Persian traditions. The star of #the Magi was a very close conjunction of the planets Jupiter and Saturn. # If you would like to see more on this, then please visit my website at: #http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/solos #It shows the layout of the stars and how these have been for centuries #represented in Christian iconography. #Adrian G. Gilbert.