Path: shell.portal.com!svc.portal.com!uunet!uunet!in3.uu.net!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!uw.edu.pl!news.nask.pl!atos!czajkow From: Ptak-Dziwak Newsgroups: alt.sex.bib,alt.sex.advocacy,alt.religion.sexuality,alt.politics.sex,alt.christnet.sex Subject: Re: Masturbation For Good Health Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 17:44:41 +0200 Organization: NASK N.O.C. Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <4t3pvp$kac@madrid.visi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: atos.warman.com.pl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: czajkow@atos In-Reply-To: <4t3pvp$kac@madrid.visi.net> Xref: shell.portal.com alt.sex.advocacy:3668 alt.religion.sexuality:13550 alt.politics.sex:14551 alt.christnet.sex:12896 On 24 Jul 1996, Rev. Donald Spitz wrote: > No, you are the one who is extreme. Jesus commanded not to lust after > women, not even in our mind. You have gone beyond even that to abusing > your body in a way it was not intended for. You cannot obey God and lust > at the same time. The Spirit and the flesh war against one another. > Where exactly does Jesus say that one shouldn't lust after women? As far as I know, he only mentioned other people's wives. All this crap about spirit warring against flesh and sex being sinful is not based on Christ's teachings but on the obsessions of his worshippers. Where does he say anything about masturbation? Where is there anything about masturbation in the Bible? Even Onan did not masturbate, but practised coitus interruptus. Ptak