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From: tbm@earth.usa.net (Stephen Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.philosophy.zen,alt.zen,alt.religion,talk.religion.buddhism,talk.religion.misc,alt.magick.tyagi
Subject: Re: GLaCorte: Zazen re: Kapleau
Date: 16 Jun 1996 04:35:50 GMT
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nagasiva (nagasiva@yronwode.com) wrote:
: [from alt.philosophy.zen: l23@hopi.dtcc.edu (GERALD J. LA CORTE)]

: Greetings all,

: I practice meditational yoga and have been inquiring into various forms 
: of meditation and pre-meditational practice.  Naturally, one of my first 
: stops was zazen.  I've been reading Kapleau's book _The Three Pillars of 
: Zen_ and have two questions.

IMO, Buddhist enlightenment is not a mystical experience such as is
generated via Hindu Yoga techniques.  Indeed, these experiences are
considered a distraction & even a danger, because so powerful.  Two
of the desires which are overcome in enlightenment are ruuparaga and
aruuparaga -- lust for mystical and higher mystical experience.

In mature vipassana meditation, at least, there is no controling the
breath or thoughts etc. but rather investigation of them.  Even when
Buddhists do mystical types of yoga, the point is NOT the mystical
experience itself, but the investigation of how it arises and falls...

YITD
Stephen