Path: shell.portal.com!svc.portal.com!sdd.hp.com!frankensun.altair.com!uwvax!newssinet!sinetnews!news.join.ad.jp!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!qiclab.scn.rain.com!news.state.or.us!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news.ecrc.de!news00.btx.dtag.de!not-for-mail From: Alex.Wilding@t-online.de (Alex Wilding) Newsgroups: alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan Subject: Mahamudra clarification. Date: 4 Apr 1996 16:17:29 GMT Organization: Telekom Online Internet Gateway Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4k0smp$8v2@news00.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 0405401449-0001@t-online.de (Alexander Wilding) X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1I [de] (Windows; I; 16bit) Clarification sought: Texts describing Mahamudra teaching have often sections on preliminaries, main practice (shi-ne and lhag-thong) then a section on 'enhancement'. Here we often find a mention of the 'four ways to lose openness' (labelling, antidote, path etc.). I can't get them quite clear. My sources to date are 1) Moonbeams (Tashi Namgyal) 2) a footnote quoting Dilgo Khyentse referring to Jamgon Kontrul's song in Rain of Wisdom 3) Mahamudra Eliminating the Darkness of Ignorance (Marig Munsel) by the 9th Karmapa 4) His longer text, translated into German as 'Ozean des Wahren Sinnes' Does anybody know more sources? Or maybe an academic can trace the origin of this tradition? Thanks