Path: Supernews!supernews.com!daver!Tandem.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!uninett.no!not-for-mail From: "M.K." Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.magick.chaos Subject: Re: TOPY-warning Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:03:13 +0200 Organization: Zona MajiKa Autonoma Lines: 67 Message-ID: <33AA6371.1D2B@james.stud.ntnu.no> References: <866794724.17052@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppi300-4204.krs.hia.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I) Xref: Supernews alt.magick:105816 alt.magick.chaos:13053 > > > TOPY has often publicly advocated extreme methods of shock or trauma in > effecting a paradigm shift as a major part of their philosophy, attitude, and > literature. Surprise, surprise...they also practice what they preach. If you > prefer a more 'reasonable', 'sane', and or 'soft' path which conforms to your > expectations then perhaps TOPY is not for you or your friend. Hmmm... Its strange how TOPY has changed (or so it seems) in the years after the main weight of the org became American-based... Used to be, TOPY wasnt any one thing but a bunch of stations with their own distinct flavours, used to be, TOPY was a knowing structure of selfaware Workers, using Katarsis-techniques to tear down fences of I & Eye and Love/Trust/Togetherness to build up strength and Self-Confidence. Used to be, Word of TOPY was Action, manifestation of Self on the background of tribe. Used to be, TOPY considered itself dangerous, a tribe of tribes of magicians, not a magiCKal group. Oh well, verily, it IS hard to kick against thee pricks... Just another IOToS group now, it seems, designed to pick up the industrialists who do not feel comfy with Abra Melin. They even got a paragraph declaring the will of the org, now. For those interested, we up here in Scandinavia is running a small scale culturalterrorist station under the name of TOPY T.R.A.S.S. (186-98-tjobing!) wich is basically a actiongroup performing positive streetsigilizations, usually in coordiantyion with other actions performed by various fractions of Origami RepubliKa. We realize that this is in no way a legal action, and we find the fact that someone in TOPY may be taking the fact of their own organization seriously enough to consider counteraction hysterically funny. These people need their nose twitched, before it fills up the entire field of their vision."Hello Yes Hello" "No Poets Own Words No Words Own Poets Own Poets No Words Words Own Poets No". And that IS a fact. > their founder Genesis who no longer associates himself with them. We sortta always thought he phreaked out on a superstar trip, too many pink caddilacs and American nights. Its a shame he did not retain cohesion. -- >It is better to build upon the shifting sands than the rock >which will confound you on the day it shatters. - P. Carroll >It sounds as if your friend has been much confounded. She shouldda had the head to expect something along the lines of what she got, if it was the end of her 23month initiatory cycle. I wouldda liked to see some recording of the ritual, to be able to judge the NRG wich was present. If its young people performing violent sex-acts, I can easily imagine the situation turning from katharsis-situation to downright rape. FoFo #49